Re: Prng Alvo



On Sat, 18 Apr 2009 07:32:44 -0700 (PDT), Phoenix
<ribeiroalvo@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On 18 Abr, 13:26, rossum <rossu...@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Sat, 18 Apr 2009 04:51:08 -0700 (PDT), Phoenix

<ribeiroa...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 18 Abr, 10:17, rossum <rossu...@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

rossum

What you think about the funtion I introduce to correct the problems
whit the bad seeds?


Alvo
Probably not worth the effort. If pubkeybreaker says that your
algorithm has a problem with "VERY strong serial auto-
correlation", then you can accept that what he says is true.

You can read about autocorrelation here:
http://www.cacr.math.uwaterloo.ca/hac/about/chap5.pdf
in section 5.4.4 (v)

In order to correct a problem with bad seeds then you need to show
that you have eliminated *all* bad seeds, not just those that I found
in a few minutes of looking and thinking. To do that you will need a
good mathematical understanding of your algorithm. Start by looking
at the autocorrelation problem that pubkeybreaker has pointed out.
Work out why it is happening and then find a way to modify your
algorithm to eliminate the problem.

Even if the algorithm is not fixable (which I suspect is the case)
then you will have learned something new.

rossum

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