# Re: Paper & pencil password algorithm

*From*: usenet@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (James Taylor)*Date*: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 00:43:16 +0700

WTShaw <lurens1@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

The problem with bits is that there are only two of them. Using groups

of them does not answer the fact that binary is fundamentally a weak

number system or you would not be needing to be so absorbed in

patchwork fixes.

It "fine-tuning" not patchwork fixes. :-)

Base 10 digits are also weak. Depending, certain

higher bases are much stronger and can be rated from very good

to very bad.

Please can you give an example of a very good base and a very bad one

and explain why one is good and the other bad in the context of this

thread?

In stream ciphers with binary lineage, the same thing goes. With

higher sets, the assumption that characters will be in some sort of

usual order is a prejudice or that all inputs will have the same set

and order. There are many more possibilities and saying "Oh, that

would be easy," does not mean that it is. It's just politics to

disregard the value of deranged sets of characters of selected

qualifying sizes used in mechanisms that are strange to those with a

limited and/or one-sided of crypto.

I'm sorry to say that I find your writing poetic but very hard to

understand. There could be something of great value in that paragraph,

but I am unable to see it. Would you clarify your meaning please?

It's time for all here to admit that cryptography is a huge field and

we should encourage its growth is all avenues.

Absolutely right! Long live crypto!

--

James Taylor

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