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The feedback was not simply machine throughput rates, but also---via
the central computer---a system 'through which anyone could consult
anyone else'.

I used keyword monitoring to filter "information" from "noise" in
Salomon's HUGE email traffic. What I did, of course, was small potatoes;
what Stafford Beer did was a serious cybernetic attempt to control an
entire nation's economy.

In order for him to do that, he needed to set
up a (cybernetic) monitoring infrastructure.

The nation's banks, factories and industrial companies.

It would have given Allende maximum control over the nations
industrial infrastructure, real-time monitoring of everything.

Everything had a computer monitoring it.

* "The Future of War - Power, Technology, and American World Dominance in
* the 21st Century", by George & Meredith Friedman, 1996, ISBN 0-517-70403-X
*
* McNamara's revolution built on an idea that was central to operations
* research and propounded by many nuclear strategists, that war was not
* methodologically distinguishable from economics. The process whereby you
* analyzed, managed, and controlled an economy was not essentially different
* from the way you managed a war, except that one was an economy of produc-
* tion and the other was an economy of force. The principal underlying both
* was the doctrine of efficiency: maximizing the benefits received from the
* efforts and expenditures---a cost benefit analysis.


Cyberneticians hope to use their capabilities for the
betterment of the human race, of which they are a part.

They are not naive when it comes to the government and politics, either.

* "The Rise of the Computer State", David Burnham, 1984
*
* Norbert Wiener, the MIT professor who is generally credited with being
* one of the principal minds behind the development of the computer,
* refused to take research money from the Pentagon because he was
* convinced it would corrupt his research and undermine his


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