Re: Book on Pre-MATH for cryptography and cryptanalysis. Reply

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IMHO, I'd read "The Code Breakers" by David Kahn before reading Applied
Cryptography by Schneier. The Code Breakers covers classical
cryptography,
and Applied Cryptography is more modern cryptography. You will be lost
reading Applied Cryptography without a basic handle on cryptography. Go
to
your city or university library and you will probably find Kahn's book.

Mindraker,

Thanks for the input. Would that be a David Kahn? If so which book, as he
has
a few published?
My aim is to understand the math I need to read such books as
"Decrypted Secrets - Methods, Maxims of Cryptology" But I only have a high
school
level of Math at the moment, otherwise, I have a good grounding in
security.

I cant find any cryptography books which give you a ground up tutorial on
the math
needed. On the other hand, I dont really want to be doing a whole Degree
on cryptography
in order to learn the math.

A bit like medical students do PRE-med; I need some kind of PRE- crypto
math course
right now to get me started.

Thanks rol

Yes, that is David Kahn. Here is his web page, as he has written several
books:
http://david-kahn.com/david-kahn-books-literature.htm
IMHO, the Code-Breakers is a good book for covering classical cryptography
(it's quite large, 1000+ pages). Don't worry, to get your feet wet before
you tackle that book, it's OK just to go to the library and get some books
on codebreaking in the youth section (that's what I did, and it helped a
lot!) It'll make a lot more sense if you know some really basic terms.
Applied Cryptography is an excellent book, too, as you can see from the
responses given on the newsgroup. However, it does cover more mathematics
than Kahn's book.
-Mindraker
PS it's "Kahn", not "Khan" -- I had trouble finding the book when I mistyped
the name in the library catalog. Apparently I thought of Genghis Khan.


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