Re: Notice: My 2nd crypto book finished :-)

Luc The Perverse wrote:
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Lighten up, mm. When you've contributed as much to this
community as Tom has, I'll be happy to read your book
announcements here, too.

SO you support spamming by people you think have contributed enough?


Yes. Tom has the right to make an announcement among a group of people that he knows, in a group where he has an established reputation.


Could you suggest a threshold, above which it is OK for a poster to spam?


If we were mass posting to 30000 groups and never saw follow ups then it would be spam.

This is more like an announcement.


A thinly-veiled commercial announcement, i.e. SPAM.


People of sufficient notoriety are afforded a certain amount of free publicity. Somehow I doubt that you disagree in entirety - the dispute is more likely to lie in where the threshold of abuse lies. Apparently you think a post dedicated specifically to an announcement of a commercial venture is past that threshold. I have never formalized my distinction between spam and announcing - but if Tom were posting a weekly update about his book - I would eventually concede it to be inappropriate. That has not happened.


Tom posts a fairly regular update on his products here.
When, if ever, would you say he has reached the aforementioned threshold?


I have seen announcements in every group, from alt.music.* to alt.games.* to groups such as this one of a scientific/mathematical nature.


And those announcements are spam, in particular when they are shilling a newly released book for sale. Can he honestly say that he did not post that announcement with an intent to increase sales?


Honestly, I believe this is being used as a way to bitch - in what amounts to little more than a popularity contest.


I always bitch about SPAM, in email, on usenet, wherever.
You should read NEWS.ADMIN.NET-ABUSE.EMAIL/USENET, if you want to see some real bitching.


Nobody likes a netKKKop.


And those same nobodies like spammers even less.
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