Re: Mac Server Hacked In Less Than 6 Hours

Ed Weir (ComCast) wrote:
| Yes, but not all MS boxes have remote shells (hell msft doesn't even
| have a shell).

Windows has RAS, and for it is built in since (at least) NT 3.1


Microsoft has nothing like a bash shell as far as I've seen.

| How do you know it hasn't? Are you suggesting one IIS box serves all
| of microsoft.com?

Of course not. They have server farms like everyone else. They also have
Clustering, a parralell processing architecture. And RAS is built in to
that as well 8^D

I actually doubt they have much outside access. Most big companies at
best have a VPN to get in.

| Their way of things just happens to be evil. And by evil I mean "not
| good for the industry".

Honestly, not good for you, anyway. The industry is thriving and bodacious.

That's why >60% of the world uses Apache? That Linux and BSD are
gaining ground every day? That people are willing to use OpenOffice
even though Office is fairly good (though not for typesetting
obviously).

I'd say that's a sign that the industry is seeking alternatives to get
away from MSFT. Not in spite of it.

http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=security+hole+in+unix&btnG=Search&meta=
http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=security+hole+in+linux&btnG=Search&meta=
http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=security+hole+in+bsd&btnG=Search&meta=
http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=security+hole+in+mac+OS&btnG=Search&meta=

So what? You said Msft software is "secured" and nobody has exploited
it. I'm saying that's a ludicrous notion and totally not true.

Furthermore you have to look at the cost and severity of the breaks.
Find an exploit for SSH and likely I'll be emerging a fix tommorow in
Gentoo.

There are STILL HOLES in IE that haven't been fixed for over a year.

Coupled with the fact that cost of ownership is a lot lower I can setup
OSS boxes much quicker and easier using the 1000s of tools available
instead of having to go out and buy this that and the other thing.

Goooooogle works just fine. Perhaps you should check your ignorance at the
door. The lady will help you...

I never said there weren't flaws in other OSes. I don't see what your
point is.

*YOU* said MSFT was secure. I'm telling you it's not.

The fact that other OSes have had holes doesn't change that fact.

<snip>

| I think this thread is some latent form of poster-child for the lame
| trolling but I'm replying just because what you're suggest is so
| absurd.

Perhaps you should just stop replying, while you're still so far behind. So
far, your replies have been little more than ignorant spewage.

Um? Ok. Deal.

Tom

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