Re: Free Commodities Are Abused
From: Luc The Perverse (sll_noSpamlicious_z_XXX_m_at_cc.usu.edu)
Date: 11/18/05
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Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 22:01:17 -0700
"Gene Cash" <gcash@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message
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>> > ALL software sucks. Some just sucks less. In my opinion, UNIX sucks a
>> > whole lot less than MS, but it still sucks. Just differently.
>>
>> http://www.deadtroll.com/index2.html?/video/ossuckscable.html~content
> Who got it in turn from the newsgroup alt.sysadmin.recovery.
It may have originated there, but I got it from a programmer on my team.
>
>> Yes I found out the hard way that HP doesn't realize that non windows
>> OSes
>> exist. Of course I should have guessed that with their 500 mb driver.
>
> Yup, and neither does Lexmark. I've had to take several pieces of
> hardware back because they're windows-only. I will not buy an nVidia or
> ATI graphics card because of their binary-only kernel driver crap.
>
> (I don't mind binary-only drivers, but NOT in my kernel)
Um - I take it you don't game? If you do I am VERY curious what card your
would suggest.
>> > I also spent 5-1/2 hours this weekend trying to figure out how to make
>> > hotplug and udevd play well together on 2.6 so that I could automount
>> > my
>> > USB stick. There's the good and bad.
>>
>> I will concede, you are on a higher plane than myself.
>
> Well honestly, it should have been far easier than that, but all that
> stuff is still fairly new and still in heavy development.
Causes problems in any OS
>> Forgive my ignorance . . but . . .tripwire?
>
> Tripwire is a utility that computes MD5 (or some other hash) on all your
> files. You keep the file of these hashes on a floppy or something that
> gets kept physically away from the machine. Every so often you compare
> things, and you can easily detect that something changed which shouldn't
> have.
Ah I was going to make something like that (except I was going to use
SHA-256 because its l33ter) for the purposes of synchronizing two mediums.
(Be it, two servers, two music directories, or a hard drive and a backup
medium)
Using it to detect differences, unless your intention is to monitor a virus
seems a little ridiculous. Just scan every now and then from another OS -
that is my policy. If you have a virus it is either because of a mistake
the user made (>=95%) or some kind of exploit or hack.
>> > A lot of people that are running Linux boxes these days don't.
>> *raises hand*
>
> Well that's cool, that's what my Netgear firewall is for. I don't have
> to worry about my machines so much. These personal firewalls are fairly
> new and have only appeared since broadband became prevalent. Before that
> for the people that couldn't afford a Cisco PIX or something, there was
> projects like "smoothwall" that turned an old 486 that could run Linux
> into a firewall. And before that, you had to be on your toes.
Yes I use a NAT - and get a nervous twitch every time I need to forward a
port to one of my boxes. I end up running HTTP servers on ports over 10000
just to help me to rest better. I know that I don't know.
> Unfortunately, you can't really prevent copying of anything that gets
> near a computer, since you can't really control what runs in that
> computer, and copying data is a basic operation. I don't think the
> "trusted computing" stuff is going to fly either, once people realize
> what it is, and there will be enough stuff from Taiwan/AMD to keep
> MS/Intel/Dell honest.
The only real fear is if somehow the government gets involved. Consider if
the government passed steep penalties for any kind of illegal copying and
gave private industry the ability to utilize some form of public resource
for tracking suspected illegal activity. (Some protection would be in place
that would make actual identities of said users unavailable.) So Sony
generates a tattle tale program, with a human end working for minimum wage
which does nothing but report hundreds (thousands?) of suspected violations
every day. When it reaches the point when 80% of people out there either
known someone personally or hear from someone they know personally that
person X was interrogated by law enforcement over illegal file
sharing/breaking DRM etc. - perhaps we will have stopped living in a free
country, but average people will become more nervous about doing it.
Combine this with hardware based DRM enabled CDs which are constantly
updating through firmware, in such a manner that new hacks are constantly
required to break them - and I think we can live in a fascist society where
95% of all filesharing is blotted out. Of course, it becomes exponentially
more difficult to penetrate the last percentiles
> Remember all the software that needed a dongle or something? Remember
> the guy that had a CopyIIPC board and made beer money copying games and
> stuff for people?
Dongles are a hassle and they were always expensive it seemed like.
> If you make it illegal, you just changed hacking from a fun pastime to a
> serious money-making profession. People will pay big bucks to have
> someone crack something.
Economically speaking, that sounds like a viable plan :)
> Eh, it's about like the commercial space bit, where it goes is anyone's
> guess, and it'll depend on things you can't predict right now.
I can't help but daydream a similar argument 100 years from now about
unauthorized use of hacked Star Trek style replicators being used to make
illegal Taco Bell Burritos or something.
-- LTP :)
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