Re: Free Commodities Are Abused
From: Luc The Perverse (sll_noSpamlicious_z_XXX_m_at_cc.usu.edu)
Date: 11/17/05
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Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 22:12:34 -0700
"Gene Cash" <gcash@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message
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> Yes, IE sucks. So does ActiveX. So does Outlook. So does the registry.
> So does poorly written software that has to run as Admin. So does the
> extremely poor documentation. So does Microsoft's attitude in general.
>
> ALL software sucks. Some just sucks less. In my opinion, UNIX sucks a
> whole lot less than MS, but it still sucks. Just differently.
http://www.deadtroll.com/index2.html?/video/ossuckscable.html~content
> I have about 12 years experience with UNIX, and I'm posting this (and
> the original post) from a Linux box. There isn't even a Windows
> partition on this box. I use Linux for all the reasons you listed above,
> plus the fact that it makes this Pentium-III 450MHz look fast. I bought
> my Epson printer specifically because it had good Linux drivers
> available.
Yes I found out the hard way that HP doesn't realize that non windows OSes
exist. Of course I should have guessed that with their 500 mb driver.
> I also spent 5-1/2 hours this weekend trying to figure out how to make
> hotplug and udevd play well together on 2.6 so that I could automount my
> USB stick. There's the good and bad.
I will concede, you are on a higher plane than myself.
> UNIX just has different problems with regards to security, and you have
> to keep on top of your patches and security alerts just like with
> Microsoft or anything else. It just takes one hole. People think they
> can put up a box, patch it once, and not worry about it.
Ah but wouldn't that be nice!
> I'm familiar with a whole university of curious computer-science
> students trying out their cracking skills. I'm also familiar with a
> disgruntled set of very sharp developers trying out their cracking
> skills.
I have no such familiarity, but I imagine it takes a lot of frustration or
boredom to produce the number of exploits and viruses we see out there.
> Now I did say "you can make it more secure in the end and it's easier
> for the distro folks to make it secure out-of-the-box" because you do
> have full control over what services you're running, and usually over
> the software all the way back to the source code. You also have nice
> things like tcp-wrappers and tripwire if you're extra paranoid.
Forgive my ignorance . . but . . .tripwire?
> However, just as with a Windows box, you have to know a little about
> what you're doing and have some idea of how the box usually gets
> attacked.
>
> A lot of people that are running Linux boxes these days don't.
*raises hand*
> Personally I feel Microsoft is not going to do so well much longer.
> People are getting more sophisticated and realizing that insecure
> computers can cost them a lot of money, and DRM-friendly OSes can really
> hinder what they want to do. They're beginning to give the finger to
> people like Sony. I'm really happy that Sony has been forced to back
> down, and I think it shows a basic and important sea-change. People used
> to say "oh well, my compooter isn't fast enough to play the CD or I'm
> doing something wrong" and now they say "I want to play my goddamn CD I
> paid money for, bitch!!" and they forced a very large multi-national
> corporation to back off. That's a very positive thing.
I disagree. People want media; the producers are sick of being screwed
over. The producers won't allow non DRM material to be produced, and the
market will go to those who can make it the most invisible. I imagine it
will get as simple as putting in the disk once, and then you can listen to
it on that computer forever more. I don't think it was ever intended or
able to keep out serious hackers. But make it inconvenient, make it
illegal to download these hacks and this kind of thing will slow down. DRM
is in its infancy, the companies are still learning. And some rebel music
buyers may open the door for some non DRM ventures. But unfortunately for
them, the people who hate DRM are the people who want to share their media
illegally.
-- LTP :)
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