REPOST: Re: advice sought on key/data histogram analysis of rijndael/128

From: Bryan Olson (fakeaddress_at_nowhere.org)
Date: 10/24/05


Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 17:29:34 GMT


In his second reply to a post of mine, lkcl wrote:
>>Then your data is way-far out from the expected.
>
> _tell_ me about it!!!!

About 1 in 100 trials should have p <= 0.01, and you are scoring
over 5000 of 204800 at that level. That is over 65 standard
deviations above the mean.

> now demonstrate to me where the flaw is,
> in the source code or in my reasoning.

Been there; done that.

Your code is buggy and unreadable, your graphs are ill-defined
to the point of nonsense, and by your own account, your lack
mathematical rigor.

> this should _not_ be happening.
>
> it should _not_ be possible in any encryption
> algorithm to simply count the 1s and 0s of
> an encryption output and be able to draw
> conclusions about its input.

Which is probably why you've done no such thing.

-- 
--Bryan
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