Re: Surrogate Factoring Theorem

From: Tim Peters (tim.one_at_comcast.net)
Date: 04/08/05 

Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 17:52:39 -0400

[JSH, expressing affection for Tim]
>>> ...
>>> The theorem doesn't allow only trivial factorizations, as is *easily*
>>> explained, but those explanations will be dodged, ignored, and talked
>>> around by people like Peters who are not exactly, um, here in the real
>>> world with the rest of us.
...
>>> People like him made bad choices and are now locked in their own
>>> version of Hell.
>>>
>>> They created it, set the locks, and then threw away the key.
>>>
>>> Basically, their sanity is forfeit, and with it their souls.

[Tim Peters, expressing affection for James]
>> Why do you waste time typing all this social crap? You have a lot of
>> work left to do before righteous indignation even starts to makes
>> sense. I understand that it's easier to rant than to make SF useful.
>> Is that the only reason?

[David C. Ullrich, embracing all]
> Ya think? I mean, duh...

Alas, he didn't answer that part, so I'm reduced to guessing. It would be
pretty lame if that were the _only_ reason; I was hoping in addition to get,
e.g., an ominous oblique reference to tne military, or at least to guinea
pigs.

> It happens quite regularly that someone new joins in the great
> debate, posting reasonable objections to JSH's fantasies in an
> unreasonably respectful tone of voice. He tries to sound reasonable
> in his replies to the new guy for a while, but eventually he gives
> up on that and concludes that the new guy is just another member
> of the vast conspiracy devoted to futile attempts to hide the Truth.
> The first phase lasted unusually long in your case, which may explain
> why the start of the second phase was so strident: usually
> the new guy is just an incompetent liar.

I'm not sure you've read every reply JSH has given me over these months.
For that matter, I'm not sure I have either. I'm sure I've read most of
'em, and you _could_ have concluded that the Harris-Peters honeymoon ended
several times before this, based on earlier nasty-grams. It's not
consistent, though, and that might still seem puzzling. Best guess is that
Egnor and Hunnicutt determined the basic reply mechanism here:

    http://8ball.ofb.net/procedure.html

I'm pretty sure an icosahedron is used internally here too, because I've
detected more than 12 distinct replies, but not more than 20 so far.
Suppose it's possible that JSH is hiding knowledge of a sixth Platonic
solid? I'll have to consider that if I see a reply #21.

> You must scare him more than most of us do for some reason - not here
> in the real world, locked in your own version of hell, sanity is
> forfeit, I find all that very impressive. Congratulations.

I'm sorely tempted to take pride it in too ... but so far my case can't be
statistically distinguished from a random process, and I wouldn't want
credit for merely being lucky. Well, unless it involved money. Otherwise
I'm afraid it's still plausible that coincidence rather than causality is at
work here.

always-a-pallbearer-never-a-corpse-ly y'rs - tim

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