Re: Thou shalt have no other gods before the ANSI C standard

From: K Williams (krw_at_att.bizzzz)
Date: 02/28/05 

Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 12:06:33 -0500

In article <MPG.1c8cfdb1d8e9477598a0fd@news.verizon.net>,
randyhoward@FOOverizonBAR.net says...
> In article <r9d621ttoketetvlo7c2jbjd13qrjfdunj@4ax.com>,
> Brian.Inglis@SystematicSW.Invalid says...
> > >This is just a less than accurate use of Heinlein's
> > >
> > > "An armed society is a polite society. Manners are
> > > good when one may have to back up his acts with
> > > his life."
> >
> > Doesn't apply: the users are sworn members, the IS guys are civilians.
> >
> > Didn't seem too polite in the old (southern) west, nor nowadays!
>
> That a very common, but incorrect misunderstanding.
>
> During the "wild wild west", the crime rate in such famous
> places as Tombstone and Dodge City was actually VERY LOW.
>
> During the same time period, the per capita crime rate in NYC
> was much higher, where guns were illegal. It sounds good,
> and if you watch too many westerns, as you may believe that
> Hollywood is actual history.
>
> Same is true for today, there is no state in the US in
> which "mere civilians" can obtain a concealed carry permit which
> has a higher per capita crime rate than one in which you can not,
> such as California or New York.

Watch how you phrase that challenge. ;-) One cannot obtain a concealed
carry permit in Vermont, yet the crime rate is very low. Of course,
the reason one cannot obtain a concealed carry permit is that such a
thing doesn't exist (nor is needed to carry concealed, or otherwise).

> Everywhere that such legislation has been passed, the crime
> rate has gone down. Much to the dismay of those on the
> other side.

Sure, but it is obvious that this would be true. If one is going to
commit a crime, what's another?
 
> But, this is now WAY OT, so if you want to debate such things,
> t.p.g or someplace is more appropriate.

You'll have that. 

-- 
  Keith

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