Re: "All random number generators eventually exhibit periodicity"?????
From: Guy Macon (http://www.guymacon.com)
Date: 07/26/04
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Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 11:57:47 -0700
Tom St Denis <tom@securescience.net> says...
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>Guy Macon wrote:
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>> Tom St Denis <tom@securescience.net> says...
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>>>Guy Macon <http://www.guymacon.com> wrote:
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>>>>Some PRNGs cycle, but do they all? Even the ones that have
>>>>infinite storage (Turing Machines)?
>>>
>>>Show me an infinite storage machine.
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>> As has been discussed here many times, when discussing wether
>> all random number generators eventually exhibit periodicity
>> the assumption is universally made that it's OK to assume any
>> arbitrarily large amount of time, and thus it should also be
>> OK to assume any arbitrarily large amount of memory. Show me
>> a machine that runs forever.
>
>Why's that? I'd say if you have an infinite source of entropy [or
>simply an unbounded source] that you have a RNG not a PRNG.
I have no idea what you are talking about. Nobody mentioned any
source of entropy. We were talking about an infinite amount of RAM.
>On another informal note... um ... Any chance you newbie trolls can like
>shut the hell up for like one solid week? Would be nice not to see
>constant retarded bickering back and forth...
That time of month, is it?
*plonk*
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