Re: Surrogate factoring, a fascinating idea

From: James Harris (jstevh_at_msn.com)
Date: 06/11/04 

Date: 10 Jun 2004 20:00:33 -0700

"Bartosz Zoltak" <X@vmpcfunction.com; X=bzoltak> wrote in message news:<caalik$g59$1@atlantis.news.tpi.pl>...
> James Harris wrote:
> > If mathematicians just ignore the result, however, and someone out
> > there in this big world finds that the theory is correct, then they
> > will be able to break into any computer system that uses the idea
> that
> > factoring is a hard problem.
>
> Tom gave you a good track to follow.
>
> As for how I see your situation - IF your theory works, I can't
> undrstand why you chose the hard way - of trying to convince people -
> instead of just SHOWING that you are right.

I'm a theoretician who works on "pure math" problems, and I know from
experience how easily "pure math" results can be ignored by
mathematicians who don't like them.

This factoring paper is just a minor result in comparison with my
OTHER math findings. It was just necessary to make a point.

So I took a little detour from my usual and solved this little
factoring problem which didn't really interest me (glad I found this
neat answer though) and wrote a paper.

As a theoretician I don't worry about the implementation details,
especially for something I don't find all that interesting.

Let the engineer types worry about the details.
 
> Factoring is a friendly and clear problem - either you CAN factor a
> number or you only SAY you can - benefit from this clarity and break
> the RSA challenge or demonstrate in any other way that your algoritm
> works for really big numbers! The world will be yours then.
>
> Bartosz

Hey, it's mathematics. What you're saying is like saying that sure,
atomic theory sounds nice, but you wouldn't believe it until someone
built a nuclear bomb and exploded it under your nose.

Implementation isn't my problem. The mathematics is what sort of
interested me.

Now I can go back to "pure math" and you can wait for someone to
engineer it, if you wish.

James Harris

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