Re: ECB 1.0 beta 1

From: Tom St Denis (tomstdenis_at_iahu.ca)
Date: 12/21/03 

Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 13:36:45 GMT

"Marcel Martin" <mm@ellipsa.no.sp.am.net> wrote in message
news:3FE581CA.50E8E964@ellipsa.no.sp.am.net...
> > It's like me saying Africans can't use LibTomMath because I don't like
the
> > persecution by the north of the south [or whatever, to be honest I don't
> > follow world affairs that closely].
> >
> > Point being your site says I'm not allowed to use our programs solely
> > because I'm Canadian [might I add one of the less restrictive countries
in
> > the world].
>
> No, not because you are Canadian but because you are residing in
> Canada.

I don't see the distinction. It's not like I'm going to move to use your
program. If you're not going to let people use your program then don't spam
it here. It's really that simple dude. I give the same flames to
commercial developers seeking ads via "I mysteriously found this program"
style....

> > Otherwise your program is kinda useless for making curves [since you
need to
> > know the order for ElGamal to work].
>
> R is prime and there is no point counting.

Admitedly my knowledge of ECC is a bit lacking. Do you have any references
as to how the algorithm works? As far as I knew you had to generate curve
parameters then count the points on it [using things like SEA]. How do you
avoid point counting?

> > Well then may I suggest you don't offer software here again [specially
since
> > a huge portion of sci.crypt readers are american].
>
> You may suggest what you want. Who cares?

Is there any reason why you are so hostile towards me? Even from when we
first met in usenet you've always been rude to me. I mean I did fix the bug
you found in LTM but you flamed me for suggesting that free software is not
my #1 priority when I have school and jobs to work at.

> > I totally agree that you
> > shouldn't have to worry about software patents but that's why you
release
> > first and ask questions later. Unless it's obvious you are violating a
> > patent you are most certainly entitled to at least a C&D first.
> >
> > Anyways, chances are even if you did violate a patent [though I know of
none
> > that cover curve generation since well, EC math is over a HUNDRED YEARS
> > OLD!] chances are low that anyone would try to sue you.
>
> You know nothing about software patents. Moreover you say anywhat. As
> usual. Maybe "EC math is over a HUNDRED YEARS OLD!" but most EC
> algorithms are not even 20 years old.

Apparently you don't know much about patents except maybe what the morons on
slashdot rant about. Also EC math itself is very old. Using it for crypto
is what is new [and several optimizations which go with it].

Tom

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