Re: NSA chooses ECC
From: Jan Panteltje (pNaonStpeAlmtje_at_yahoo.com)
Date: 10/27/03
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Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 21:43:26 GMT
On a sunny day (Mon, 27 Oct 2003 04:24:03 +0100) it happened Marcel Martin
<mm@ellipsa.no.spam.net> wrote in <3F9C8FD3.E545C69B@ellipsa.no.spam.net>:
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>> Note that true patents such that Certicom holds aren't on "oh I found the
>> root of an equation" it's how to use that todo something useful. E.g. point
>> compression is trivial math but the idea of using the math to save bits is
>> what the patent is about [IIRC].
>
>That's hallucinating. You howl each time someone try to distribute
>a non-free software but you find acceptable that someone can have
>the monopoly of an idea and can racket you with...
>
>mm
I wanted to stay out of this... but I agree with mm, see in school I
learned to use math to solve practical problems.
No it seems not a good idea to patent ones application of math
to solve something.
Of cause you can argue, 'hey: this is my clever idea...'
But maybe ONLY because you needed to solve that at that moment.
Indeed anyone else (as mm brought forward) would come to the
same conclusion or a similar one.
If this is then 'patented' you are for ever stuck in software development,
impossible to do a patent search for every line of code you write.....
So then it will kill any initiative, except indeed for the big ones like IBM
etc. as mentioned.
Any initiative to develop some solution in house I mean.
Mpeg as example involves some more, especially dividing up the picture
in little squares and using motion vectors, and interpolate frames.
The math IMHO should not be patentable (well it is) but the method.
Because, here again, if you patent the MATH, you cannot use a similar
thing in ANY other application (nothing to do with video for example).
OK, I signed that thing against software patents, I think software patents
are an irritating break on development, like patenting cementing bricks
together, (oops should not have mentioned that), you cannot move with all
that crap.
JP
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