Re: Evaluation of MegaSnakeOil by "expert"

From: Joe Peschel (jpeschel_at_no.spam.org)
Date: 10/14/03

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    Mxsmanic <mxsmanic@hotmail.com> wrote in
    news:fcpoov4q339snvummgekfras3mhnrborij@4ax.com:

    > Joe Peschel writes:
    >
    >> This isn't a debating forum.
    >
    > Really? What is it? Advertising? Public announcements?

    This is sci.crypt, a Usenet news group.

    >
    >> Your opinion about cryptanalysis is uninformed opinion.
    >
    > My opinion seems to be different from yours, and that's about the only
    > thing that can be said about it with any certainty.

    Nonsense. You've even admitted that you don't know much about cryptanalysis
    and you've refused to study and learn, even after sources and references
    were given to you.

    >
    >> My saying that your opinion is uninformed isn't an attack, it's a
    >> fact concerning your lack of knowledge.
    >
    > You cannot assess my knowledge from USENET posts, so your "fact" is
    > actually conjecture.

    Sure I can, so can most of the regulars here.

    >
    > If I agreed with you, you would never question my knowledge of
    > cryptanalysis.

    I don't see how your cryptanalytic opinions will be the same as mine unless
    you learn at least something about cryptanalysis.

    >
    >> Again, this isn't a debating forum. If you intend to discuss
    >> cryptanalysis here, you need to know what you are talking about.
    >
    > What's the difference between discussion and debate?

    You don't even now that? My, you have more homework to do than I thought.

    >And who put you
    > in charge of the newsgroup?

    What a silly question!

    >
    >> What motivates my responses to your prattle is exactly what I've
    >> already said:
    >
    > You can repeat it as often as you want.
    >Some people will believe you.
     
    Okay.
    What motivates my responses to your prattle is exactly what I've
    already said:

         "I reply, as I've said, to some of your posts so that people
          who are just passing by this news group understand that your
          comments are prattle."

    > I won't, as repetition alone does not persuade me.

    Your hard luck.
    >
    >> Some people who pass by sci.crypt don't understand cryptology and
    >> need informed answers. That doesn't mean I think I am more
    >> intelligent than they are. They don't need help understanding your
    >> comments; they might need help understanding that your comments are
    >> uninformed, non-sensical, and, in general, prattle and persiflage.
    >
    > You're getting more irritated, aren't you? It's a good thing I'm not
    > selling bridges, or this would be a very profitable day.

    Irritated --you're kidding, right? I have no idea what the "selling
    bridges" stuff is supposed to mean.

    >
    >> You need to learn about and understand crypto before you express an
    >> opinion on it.
    >
    > First, you don't know what I do or don't know or understand about

    Sure, I do. You've shown me and the regulars here.

    > crypto; second, there is no requirement for any specific knowledge on
    > the part of anyone before he posts in this newsgroup.

    If you want to be taken seriously, you need to understand the subject. You
    don't, and you refuse to learn.

    >
    >> I have been trying to correct your misinformation.
    >
    > How do you correct misinformation (real or perceived) with personal
    > attacks?

    My aren't personal attacks. They are simply facts about your lack of
    knowledge about crypto and your refusal to study cryptanalysis.

    J 

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