Re: Which algorithm would YOU choose for...

From: wrong way philbin (wwp_at_snaggle.com)
Date: 10/14/03 

Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 06:39:29 -0700

On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 06:58:03 -0400, "Douglas A. Gwyn"
<DAGwyn@null.net> wrote:

>wrong way philbin wrote:
>> <DAGwyn@null.net> wrote:
>>>Simon Johnson wrote:
>>>>It is highly unlikely an attack that can actually decrypt your data with
>>>>a reasonable amount of resources will be discovered against Rijndael.
>>>That's a bit of an overstatement. No reasonable attack
>>>is generally known at present, but also there is as yet
>>>no proof that such an attack is forever impossible.
>> You appear to be overstating and and are thus incorrect. He never
>> approached "forever impossible" did he? No. Those are your words.
>> Johnson merely stated that an attack on Rijndael, using a reasonable
>> amount of resources, which would result in actual decryption of the
>> data, is highly unlikely.
>> Not impossible. Not forever impossible. But highly unlikely.
>
>Are you being intentionally dense? When Simon said that
>it is highly unlikely that an attack will be discovered,
>he didn't put any time limit on it. The history of
>cryptology suggests that if enough expert attention is
>directed at a system for long enough, successful attacks
>are highly likely to be discovered.
>I didn't say that Simon said anything about impossibility.
>That was part of my brief argument to the effect that
>there is no evidence to suggest that the historical trend
>must not hold for AES.

I don't care if you can't deal with it and want to call me being
intentionally dense.

My words stand and my words hold. And so do Johnson's.

AES is a modern cryptosystem brought to bear under a lot of scrutiny
and it is highly unlikely that a break resulting in decryption of data
will occur.

If you want to continue to argue differently, then you can,
incorrectly, continue to argue differently.

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