Re: Meganet on Cryptogram again

From: Tom St Denis (tomstdenis_at_iahu.ca)
Date: 09/19/03 

Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 23:11:08 GMT

"Mxsmanic" <mxsmanic@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:shdkmvc9t768kjg7e6qdoids8943vlgcfa@4ax.com...
> Well, for one thing, people will take you seriously when you say it's no
> good.

Then I would waste all my time analyzing designs that are just very likely
to be pure crap.

> > They refer multiple times to "files" and rather large keys.
> > I'm programming for a device with say 256 bytes of ram
> > and an 8-bit processor.
>
> Perhaps they are not.
>
> > AES will work in that environment. Will VME?
>
> What difference does it make? They don't appear to be aiming at smart
> cards or similar devices. PCs have a lot more than 256 bytes of RAM.

Well AES scales well. That makes AES a better cipher than VME almost
immediately.

> > I'd suggest you go buy a dictionary.
>
> I'd suggest that you skip the personal attacks, unless you are trying to
> prove my point.

My point was "VME is crap" is an opinion not emotion. It's an opinion based
on past experiences.

Tom

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