Re: Secure OS Thoughts
From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler (lynn_at_garlic.com)
Date: 09/01/03
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Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 14:07:49 GMT
"Douglas A. Gwyn" <DAGwyn@null.net> writes:
> I always thought that it was a realization of Myer's SWARD
> architecture.
tss/360 had effectively one level store and other things for the
360/67 (360/65 with virtual memory). it was a fairly large project
(had some 1200 people or so working on it at the peak), announced and
early versions delivered to customers. It never really took off and
was canceled. cp/67 (from the cambridge scientific center with virtual
machine support) and MTS (michigan terminal system) were also
developed for 360/67 using virtual memory. some of the cambridge science
center references:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#545tech
there was some hope that the 360/67 would have "won" the multics bid
... but didn't. some amount of the early ctss, multics, cp/67 history
(both multics and cambridge science center were located at 545 tech
sq). lots of early details can also be found in Melinda's paper:
http://pucc.princeton.edu/~melinda/
FS (future system) was an extremely aggresive project that possible
peaked at 2500 people ... that was in part was in response to plug
compatible controllers .... something that I've been blaimed for help
originating when I was an undergraduate
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#360pcm
some specific Future System excerpts/references:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000f.html#16 [OT] FS - IBM Future System
including discussion at:
http://www.ecole.org/2/CM200195-ENG.pdf
and some discussion from the System R reunion (see "FS" in index):
http://www.mcjones.org/System_R/SQL_Reunion_95/sqlr95-Index.html
minor reference:
http://www.cs.clemson.edu/~mark/acs_people.html
Future System was canceled before even being announced.
The lore is that several of the people that worked on FS migrated out
to rochester and did S/38.
some s/38 and as/400 history at:
http://www.400times.co.uk/FrameData/history_of_the_38.htm
from the above:
On the large mainframe front, IBM had just canceled a project known as
FS (Future Systems) that was going be a revolutionary replacement for
the existing line of IBM mainframe computers. After several years of
work, meetings, and more task force meetings and many train loads of
paper specifications later the IBM management team determined the
project was too ambitious even for IBM and IBM abandoned the project
in 1975. (Does any one know the date this is a guess.)?
In the heart of the cornfields in Rochester, Minnesota the S/3 and its
follow on systems S/32 and S/34 were nearing the end of a very
successful life. The time for a replacement system was nearing. There
was no hardware clone of the S/34 but the fear of a clone vendor
replacing existing hardware was high on IBM managements concerns. The
news of FS demise was slow to reach Rochester so the group of
planners, engineers and programmers continued on an independent
approach to design the system for the future at least for the small
and medium business customer. Every one wanted bigger, better, faster,
and cheaper than the now aging S/34 but just how that would be
accomplished was still an unknown.
Early in 1975, I joined the core group of less than 25 people who were
developing the vision of the replacement for S/34. This small group of
talented people with came from varied backgrounds. Some from the
design teams of the S/3, S/32 and S/34 while others had large S/360
and S/370 backgrounds.
-- Anne & Lynn Wheeler | http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/ Internet trivia 20th anv http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/rfcietff.htm
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