Re: A Question of Permutations of Vectors of Bits
From: Simon G Best (s.g.best_at_btopenworld.com)
Date: 07/31/03
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Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 07:39:13 +0000 (UTC)
David Wagner wrote:
> Simon G Best wrote:
>
>>P is a permutation of 2n-bit vectors. x and y are 2n-bit vectors, such that
>> y = x + P(x)
>>(where '+' is bitwise-xor). P is easily invertible.
>>
>>[P is] a bijective mapping of 2n-bit vectors to 2n-bit vectors; a
>>permutation such as a block cipher's encryption function with a
>>particular key.
>
> Ahh. Then I think this problem is hard. More precisely, I believe it
> is hard if P behaves like a random permutation[1], which ought to be the
> case if there are no weaknesses in the key schedule or structure of the
> block cipher.
Groovy!
> Indeed, if it were too easy to solve your problem, then I think there
> would be shortcut inversion and collision attacks on Davies-Meyer hashing.
(And now that I've quickly looked up Davies-Meyer hashing,) I see what
you mean.
> Special case: If y=0, then you're looking for fixpoints of P. In some
> cases, you can exploit the cipher's structure to find the fixpoints of
> encryption under a specified key. (Of course, when this is possible, it
> means that P does not behave like a random permutation.)
That special case is quite easy to create for each, fixed y, but
involves defining a new permutation in terms of P and y. Then it's a
problem of finding the fixpoints of that new permutation.
> [1] In a sense analogous to random oracles (rather than to
> pseudorandom functions, PRFs).
Thanks! :-D
Simon
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