Re: More one NASA management

From: DSCOTT (daVvid_a_scott@email.com)
Date: 02/07/03 

From: daVvid_a_scott@email.com (DSCOTT)
Date: 7 Feb 2003 19:22:41 GMT

johntromaville@aol.com (JohnTromaville) wrote in
<20030207122116.16054.00000961@mb-mo.aol.com>:

>>
>> The space walk may not have been necessary. If ground or even
>>space based cameras took a look.
>
>how many times do i have to explain to you that this is very difficult
>thing to do? Please stop making things seam simple. I have given my
>reasons now could you please give me one site in the world from any
>nation that can carry out taking pictures of very high definition of an
>object in low Earth Orbit.
>
>

  You never backed any of your reasons with facts.

  Here is more info on the Dumb failure of NASA managers to seek
photos which are dam easy to take.
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/02/03/national/03WRON.html?ex=1044939600&en=d3d
d478924999a24&ei=5062&partner=GOOGLE
You don't know shit about our ability to take photos. All it took
was NASA managers getting off there asses. Here are some quotes
from that article:

QUOTE START
NASA asked that a telescope at the Maui site take images of the space
shuttle when John Glenn went into orbit in 1998. NASA even reoriented the
shuttle to give the Maui telescope a better view. But during the latest
Columbia flight, NASA made no request for images.

Dr. Robert Q. Fugate, a senior scientist and technical director at the
Starfire Optical Range, said that one of his telescopes tracked the
Columbia as it re-entered the atmosphere. The glow around the spacecraft
made it impossible to see individual tiles at that point, but Dr. Fugate
said that they too might have been able to see the tiles if they had been
asked while the craft was in space.
QUOTE END

 Know tell me again how its so dam hard.

And again let me state the boys on them there remore sites
get bored. THey would have loved to help only if the managers
would have got off there asses to ask for help. Here is another
one that some bored boys took. Just guess what they could have
done if NASA asked for help ealier. Its also possible unless over
written that other earlier photos exist even if no one asked.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A38794-2003Feb7.html
QUOTE START
High-resolution images taken by an Air Force camera show a jagged area on
the leading edge of Columbia's left wing 60 seconds before the space
shuttle broke apart over Texas last Saturday, Aviation Week and Space
Technology magazine reported in its edition published today.

The images, reportedly taken from a ground-based camera in the Southwest
whose precise location was not disclosed, are among those being analyzed at
NASA's Johnson Space Center in Houston.

A source close to the investigation told the trade weekly that they show
serious structural damage to the left wing near the point where it joins
the fuselage.
QUOTE END

 I don't think NASA managers counted on any high resolution pictures
be taken by the remote sites if they were not requested. It seems
they don't know shit about human nature they should be fired.
Know tell me again its imposssibe or hard.

>> The shuttle as the main suppler of the space station has to
>>frequently be in roughly that orbit. Since no other space shuttles
>>up there there was room. Space is big.
>>
>
>yes it is but this mission was not required to go into the same orbit as
>the ISS! theres no point in saying what could have been if this and that
>- it wasn't!
>

  Double talk it was not required to go into a different orbit either.

>> Speaking of the station which is in a riduclus low orbit it
>>frequently has to be pulled up to a higher orbit by the
>>shuttle since it decays due to the low orbit. How long
>>before that boon doogle crashs.
>
>its not rediculously low - it is at a decent enough altitude so that its
>orbital decay is not too much of a problem and yet low enough to make it
>economic to build it up /take suplies etc.
>

  You don't answer the question not surprising since you other
answers seem to lace clarity.

>> I see and becuase you lack the ability to know what is there
>>its not there. Wow you could be a NASA consultant with that
>>ability. Or maybe even a NSAS manager. Since you don't need
>>to ask for help or see what help is available.
>>
>
>I refuse to say for definite that such a telescope that can track fast
>enough exists - however i will say that i have in the passed worked in
>the space technology industry and have never come across such a device -
>have you? but i will not rule it out completly since I am not god like
>you are. :-)
>

  See URLS above to somewhat fill the major gaps in your
knowledge.

>> You have to be joking they roll it frequently get re
>
>yes the shuttle does roll - but any orbital manoeuver can bring
>problems. you don't do anything lightly. - besides this is a side issue
>compared to the difficulties of actually taking the pictures.
>

  Not really
SNIP...

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