Re: More one NASA management

From: DSCOTT (daVvid_a_scott@email.com)
Date: 02/06/03 

From: daVvid_a_scott@email.com (DSCOTT)
Date: 6 Feb 2003 14:18:04 GMT

lahippel@ieee.orgies.invalid (Lassi Hippeläinen) wrote in
<3E4219A8.F3FB75DC@ieee.orgies.invalid>:

>Benjamin Goldberg wrote:
>>
>> "Douglas A. Gwyn" wrote:
>> >
>> > The really interesting issue in all this is why it has
>> > been considered acceptable for any of the tank insulation
>> > at all to break away during launch.
>>
>> Who says that it was acceptable?
>>
>> IMHO, it's quite likely that the possibility of any of the tank
>> insulation breaking off was unanticipated.
>
>None of the seals of the solid fuel boosters were meant to leak, but
>many of them did. Since there weren't accidents, it became customary to
>accept leaks. A disaster waiting to happen. In the case of Challenger
>the leak was located next to the strut that attached the booster to the
>shuttle, and the leaking fire cut that strut.
>
>Even though I usually don't agree with David A. Scott, this time (about
>it being a management problem) I certainly do...
>

  Well your honor is still in tact. I don't take it as agreement
since your go on to say nothing couod be done which I think is
false. We will never know since management sat on there asses.

  They had weeks to come up with an anwser and chose to ignore
the whole thing. I think an answer or at least that the extent
of the damage could have been assed. I for one would never go up
with the same management in charge. They should be fired for
not trying. They should be fired for lying about there concern
for the saftry of the people in space. They should be fired since
they are claiming that they take on the responsibility when they
do they best to make sure no evidence can be found pointing to
them. They are tyring to blame God by saying a meterite did it
since they know better. They are purposely didn't allow the real
damage to be known saying there was nothing that could be done.
FIRE THEM get someone willing to admit mistakges in real time
and get someone who at least tries. Instead of the CYA managers
they currently have.

>> Once the shuttle was launched, though, there was little they could do
>> about it.
>>
>> (Maybe they could/should have done some EVA and gone out to check, once
>> they were up, to see what kind of damage there was... but this is just
>> hindsight, which of course is always perfect :))
>
>They weren't equipped for EVA. Besides there is no way to get to the
>underside, because there are no handles to grab to. Besides^2, even if
>they could see what was wrong, they had no way of fixing anything.
>Reattaching loose tiles takes more than bubblegum.

 Its space they had the suits. It only takes rope and courage it
was an emergency. They don't need handes they were not cripples.
Hell they where the ones who could die. They should at least have
been gived an honest chance. Maybe NASA was afraid they might freak
out and have a live sex orgy on live TV. Maybe that was there
reason to downplay the whole thing to them with out really exaiming the
problem. Again if Glen was on there I bet they would have checked.

>
>-- Lassi
>

  Why are named after a dog or is it spelled differently

David A. Scott 

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