Re: Downloading updates in advance

i have also done what you describe scores of times in the past without problems
i am 110% sure that what i am experiencing is abnormal, i might be a
semi-noob on the technical side of computers, but i'm no idiot. If you would
see the way my cpu is working, the way NIS gives popups, the way i have
internet traffic without me doing anything, the way NIS allows coockies...
and all of these things are happening the second i got infected. None of
those things were happening in the past.

"Steven L Umbach" wrote:

How do you know you are being hacked and what evidence? An attacker can not
get past the Windows Firewall as it does not allow inbound connections by
default that are not in response to traffic that was initiated by your
computer and a correctly installed pristine operating system from authentic
Windows XP install disk would have no malware on it. I have done what I
suggested scores of times without any problem what so ever. You are right
about changing IP address though as that has nothing to do with increasing
security in your situation. --- Steve


"omi" <omi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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i've tried your discription about 20 times last month
formatting the drive, installing winxp & msi mainboard from original
cd-roms
(offline)
connecting to the internet & updating winxp... 1st or 2nd time i connect
to
update i get hacked... changing ip doesn't help
this is a serious issue that developpers should look into
there's no way i load infected files when installing/updating
i've tried it again today
same problem
:((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((

"Steven L Umbach" wrote:

If you did a pristine install of the operating system from a genuine
Windows
install disk and either enable Windows Firewall or are behind an internet
router/firewall device that does not allow any unsolicited inbound
traffic
you should not have a problem with getting Windows Updates without
becoming
infected or hacked. However I suggest that you go to Windows Updates
first
thing before installing any software on your computer after the fresh
install. I do this a lot with never a problem and the next thing I do is
to
install antivirus software and update it immediately. Then when you are
done
if you are not protected by an internet router or firewall device then
disconnect from the network and disable the Windows Firewall before you
install another software firewall and make sure it is enabled before
connecting to the internet again. Personally I like using the Windows
Firewall and do not like all the noise that other software firewalls
generate with all the pop messages though they have there place
especially
on a shared computer where you want to restrict what applications a user
can
use to access the internet. If you continue to have problems I might
suspect
that you have infected files in the applications or data files that you
are
restring to your computer which you should be scanning for malware before
you restore/install on your computer. --- Steve

http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/windowsxpsp2/Default.mspx
--- Protect Your PC tips
http://scan.sygatetech.com/ --- Check your firewall configuration here
for
inbound threats

"omi" <omi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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1) that's where the problem is, when i go online for updating i get
hacked,
changed my IP zillion times, no luck

3) i have no scanner or printer installed or even connected
i get 5-10 popups from NIS about this very rapidly... i don't think
that's
normal
also when i open a webpage, NIS allows +/- 50 coockies for each webpage
also i got a NIS popup request for Ikernel.exe to connect to a
DNS-server
(blocked it)
i wunder if there's some permanent RAM in my pc, not the ram-sticks but
something like the BIOS...

4) thnx for the tip.. i changed the registry to prevent messenger from
running

5) i was able to install most winxp updates offline except:
- com_microsoft.886906_NET10_SP3_nld_5556
- com_microsoft.888316_ehome_guide_fix
- com_microsoft.KB867461_DOT_NET_EN_1_0_SP3
- com_microsoft.KB867461_DOT_NET_Tier3
- com_microsoft.KB873369_XP_SP3_eHome_INTL
- com_microsoft.Q816093_VM3810_Ver1
- com_microsoft.Q900036_VS_NET_ES_5520

oh i wish i could get my hands on one of those hackers,
he/she would suffer a very slow death, minimum a month
after messing with this problem for about a month i'm almost ready for
a
mental institution

omi

any hackers that wish to vulontier or test me, let's set up a meeting
!!

"Juan" wrote:

1) You may need to go to the Windows Update Site first and install the
most
recent version of Windows Update Software* (accept the download before
a
regular update search) and after that you can install updates by any
means.

*Check in C:\WINDOWS\Downloaded Program Files and check update
software;
Validation tool and Update Class, activex controls are necessary to
update
your system.

2) svchost is a normal system process

3) and Generetic Host Process may be a problem with a scanner or
printer
driver. updated drivers will solve it.

4) How to disable or remove Messenger (msmsgs.exe)
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_messenger.htm
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_mess_disable.htm
http://www.updatexp.com/disable-messenger-msn.html

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"omi" <omi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> escribió en el mensaje
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Well that didn't work,

i downloaded all 90 files (582Mb)
i formatted my drive and reinstalled windows
when i tried to perform the updates one by one
there were some that would not install because the installation
program
was
missing
like : com_microsoft.886903_NET11_SP1_XP_5556
result: i had to go online to search for updates
i needed an installer program first,
then 28 downloads were needed
Now it's up to date but again i'm leaking Mb's :((
In my taskmanager i see there are 5 "svchost.exe" that are active
is this normal ?
svchost.exe - local service
svchost.exe - networkservice
svchost.exe - SYSTEM
svchost.exe - networkservice
svchost.exe - SYSTEM

msmsgs.exe keeps activating itself
My cpu keeps "performing" without me doing anything (variable 0-10%)
and NIS gives popups
"Rules automaticly created for MS generetic Host Process for WIN32
server"
--> c:\Windows\System32\svchost.exe

So i'm back to where i was

Looks like performing updates offline is not that easy as i thought

Any help's appreciated
omi


"Nepatsfan" wrote:

You're welcome.

Nepatsfan

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omi <omi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
thnx a million

hopefully this will end my virus-nightmare that lasted a
month

thnx again
omi

"Nepatsfan" wrote:

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omi <omi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hello,

i'm looking for a way to dl'd winxp-home updates in advance
i want to burn them all on cd
so i can install & update winxp completely updated OFFline
Can someone give me the URL to do that ?
A friend gave me this link but i don't know if it's
relaible http://www.softwarepatch.com/windows/
I think i prefer an originale MSwinxp website

thnx in advance
omi

Go to the following web site:

Welcome to Windows Update Catalog
http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/catalog/en/default.asp

Click on "Find updates for Microsoft Windows operating
systems".
In the Operating system box, scroll down to the next to last
entry, Windows XP SP2.
Click on it to highlight it and hit the Search button.
Click on "Critical Updates and Service Packs".
Scroll through the list and add all the updates you need to
your download basket.
Do the same for "Recommended Updates".
Once you've completed the selection process click on "Go to
Download Basket".
Use the Browse button to select a handy location on your
hard drive to store the updates.
Hit the Download button.

Here's another Microsoft source for updates:

Microsoft Security Bulletin Search
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/current.aspx

Here are a couple of sites you may find useful:

How to download updates and drivers from the Windows Update
Catalog
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;323166

How to install multiple Windows updates or hotfixes with
only one reboot
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/296861/

Good luck

Nepatsfan















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