Re: Do I have TOO MANY antivirus, antispyware, etc



Thank You to all of you for your advice...
To Lanwench-
My NAV updates auto & runs a complete scan once a day. It has never detected
any spyware or threats on this computer, although it did pick up the sober
worm on my laptop (the 1st day I bought the laptop and installed NAV).
The only firewall I have is whatever my Linksys router provides for my
wireless stuff and the windows firewall. I used to have EZ firewall, but it
accepted all kinds of stuff as trusted things--like adware and BHO's.
(Microsoft anti spyware removed those--no more surf sidekick!). Right now I
am thinking about uninstalling webroot's spysweeper because it is holding
2200 files hostage in quarantine and when I try to restore them (per their
advice) (it thinks it is a root kit masked something) it stops responding and
I get nowhere.
Windows updates itself automatically.
Got SP2.

To Mr. Umbach-
I will try to run spyware in safe mode. I did it once with NAV and Webroot
and never picked up anything. At this point I just am not sure if I should
uninstall what I have now and switch to ONE thing. What do you think?
P.S. How do I browse the internet NOT as the administrator? I use the
internet to download notes from school, check my school email and do research
for different case studies and care plans. OH...and eBay, of course.
Sorry if I am using the inappropriate place for my questions.

To Mr. Lipman-
This is probably true about Windows Live. It took about 2 1/2 hours to scan
my computer and none of them ever take more than 30 or 45 min to do a
complete scan. I have them scan everything.
My e-mails are down to about 3 or 4 a day now. I know my "IP address has
been logged" and "my password" is there and every person in my addressbook
has a "new address" and "Paris Hilton"....sick of seeing her name. I've never
opened the emails. They get stomped and deleted my somebody.
I can try as you suggest..sounds complicated though. Can't be any harder
than saving a life? right? Thank you for the detailed instructions.
Anything else I should know before I try?

Thanks Again

"David H. Lipman" wrote:

> From: "nursing major needs help" <nursingmajorneedshelp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
> | I used to be internet-free. Now I have been on-line for a little over a year
> | and I never had any anti-anything. My computer started getting retarted and I
> | downloaded and installed the EZ anti-everything offered with my ISP. It
> | seemed to only slow things down and didn't protect me from the Win32/sober
> | something-or-another that sent me like 300 e-mails a day. So I went to the
> | store and bought Norton Anti-virus, Webroot's Spy Sweeper, and installed
> | Microsoft's Anti-spyware. I got rid of about 30 viruses and a trojan dropper
> | and some ad stuff. Everything was working fine...for about 3 months. Now my
> | computer is retarted again and I ran the Windows Live Safety Center Scan,
> | which detected and deleted yet another virus. None of the others found it. I
> | am so confused. Please tell me what I am doing wrong or what I should do.
> | Thanks!!!
>
>
> There are anti virus News Groups specifically for this type of discussion.
>
> microsoft.public.security.virus
> alt.comp.virus
> alt.comp.anti-virus
>
> If you had asked in an anti virus News Group first you would have been directed to use
> Kaspersky or NOD32 where NOD32 is a little lighter on resources than Kaspersky.
>
> You would have NOT been directed to NAV.
>
> In addition, Windows Live Safety Center Scan sucks. It is a Beta and tests show that it has
> one of the lowest catch rate of any anti virus in the Industry. You are lucky it caught
> what it caught but it is possible that also missed something !
>
> To back up you installed AV application, I suggest the use of the following tool. It
> provides the "On Demand" scanners for; McAfee, Sophos, Trend Micro and Kaspersky. None of
> which have to pre-exist on the PC.
>
> Receipt of of email laden with viruses will not be stopped by anti virus, it will just
> protect you from infection once the signature for that virus is installed. To stop the
> receipt of 300 emails created by the Sober worm or other types, use anti spam utilities and
> email based rules. Find the common denominator of the email based worm that is deifferent
> from normal mail and have the email application spam rule delete the email.
>
>
> Download MULTI_AV.EXE from the URL --
> http://www.ik-cs.com/programs/virtools/Multi_AV.exe
>
> To use this utility, perform the following...
> Execute; Multi_AV.exe { Note: You must use the default folder C:\AV-CLS }
> Choose; Unzip
> Choose; Close
>
> Execute; C:\AV-CLS\StartMenu.BAT
> { or Double-click on 'Start Menu' in C:\AV-CLS }
>
> NOTE: You may have to disable your software FireWall or allow WGET.EXE to go through your
> FireWall to allow it to download the needed AV vendor related files.
>
> C:\AV-CLS\StartMenu.BAT -- { or Double-click on 'Start Menu' in C:\AV-CLS}
> This will bring up the initial menu of choices and should be executed in Normal Mode.
> This way all the components can be downloaded from each AV vendor's web site.
> The choices are; Sophos, Trend, McAfee, Kaspersky, Exit this menu and Reboot the PC.
>
> You can choose to go to each menu item and just download the needed files or you can
> download the files and perform a scan in Normal Mode. Once you have downloaded the files
> needed for each scanner you want to use, you should reboot the PC into Safe Mode [F8 key
> during boot] and re-run the menu again and choose which scanner you want to run in Safe
> Mode. It is suggested to run the scanners in both Safe Mode and Normal Mode.
>
> When the menu is displayed hitting 'H' or 'h' will bring up a more comprehensive PDF help
> file. http://www.ik-cs.com/multi-av.htm
>
>
> * * * Please report back your results * * *
>
>
>
> --
> Dave
> http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
> http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm
>
>
>
.



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