Re: 2 pc network - can't see host files from pc 2 on pc 1

I will try your latest in the morning. I have found this at microsoft .com
"FP_Tshoot.doc"
if you have time take a look at it and see if this could be a cure all...it
really looks promising as well as your info.
can be found with google
or the urlk
here
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=fd7fd48d-6b4a-448e-a632-076f98a351a2&DisplayLang=en

"Steven L Umbach" <n9rou@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:u2ZiP9QDGHA.2036@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Assuming that you have firewall protection via your internet router try
> booting computer one into Safe Mode with networking to see if that helps
> or not. Also I don't recommend disabling netbios over tcp/ip in a small
> workgroup because it will be needed for the network to work correctly.
> Enable it on both computers and use the command ipconfig /all to make sure
> it does not show as being disabled. Both computers should then show at
> least three entries when the command nbtstat -n is run and one computer
> should show as being the master browser. Running netstat -an on both
> computers should show that ports 139 and 445 TCP are listening or
> established. If you have not done so yet try accessing computer one via
> UNC from computer 2 using the actual IP address of computer one. In the
> run box of computer two enter \\xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx of course entering the
> actual IP address of computer one. From computer two try using the telnet
> command to see if you can access TCP ports 139 and 445 on computer one of
> which at least one is needed for file and printer sharing. On computer one
> enter at the command prompt telnet xxx.xxx.xxx 139 and if the port is open
> to you will get a blank command line screen with a blinking cursor. Try it
> from computer one and you will see how it works.
>
>
> As far as permisisons on computer one while logged on as a local
> administrator go to Windows Explorer go to tools/folder options/view and
> make sure that the last option for simple file sharing is unchecked. Now
> either create a share on your computer or use an existing share. On that
> share right click and select properties go to sharing and select
> permissions. For now give administrators full control and everyone read
> permissions. While in the folder properties select security and make sure
> administrators have full control and everyone has read and execute and
> list folder permissions. If everyone group is not present select add and
> type everyone in the box and hit OK and give everyone the permissions. Now
> make sure that computer one has a user account with a logon/password that
> matches what the user that logged onto computer two used. You can enter
> lusrmgr.msc in the run box to bring up Local Users and Groups to create a
> user account and/or change the password for a user account. The user on
> computer two MUST logon with a password to access a share on computer one.
> If that fails try to enable simple file sharing on computer one to see if
> at least that can work. If you need to try that make sure the guest
> account is enabled on computer one using Local Users and Groups again. See
> if any of that helps. If it does not there may be incompaible security
> options on computer one though that should not be the case if both
> computers have default security options that would be configured in Local
> Security Policy or by importing a security template. --- Steve
>
>
> "CC" <hippiechick13-nospam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:YX3tf.378192$zb5.21985@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Thank you Steven,
>>
>> I have used what you have said and have gotten so far as to be able to
>> read whats on the 2nd pc from the first (Host)pc.
>> But not the other way around. It continuously states the windows
>> explorer messge that reads
>> exactly "\\One is not accessible. You might not have permission to
>> use the network resource. Contact the admistrator of this server to find
>> out if you have access permissions. "
>> I have no clue how to set permissions.
>> This is the setup now.
>> Host PC = named "One" on OFFICE workgroup
>> 2nd PC = Named "Two" on OFFICE workgroup
>> One can see and edit Two's files but Two can't on One's.
>> As far as I have researched tonight ALL settings for firewall are same
>> (Ive also tried turning off Windows Firewall)
>> NEtBios is OFF for Tcp on both machines.
>> Both machines have windowsxp pro with sp2 updated
>>
>>
>>
>> "Steven L Umbach" <n9rou@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:YY2dnXDeBqTCyS7eRVn-og@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> No you do not have to use ICS and should not use it when you have a
>>> switch built into your router. ICS had it's day when most everyone was
>>> on dialup. If your router/switch has five ports then plug your computers
>>> into any port not designated as an uplink port [which is NOT the WAN
>>> port]. I also assume here that you have configured your router to
>>> connect to your ISP by entering the pertinent info into the part for
>>> DSL/PPPOE which you need to do if you have not. The DSL modem plugs into
>>> the "internet" or often called WAN port on the router.
>>>
>>> UNC is a way to connect to a server or share using the syntax
>>> \\servername\sharename and can be done in the run box, at the command
>>> prompt as part of the net use command, or in scripts. It is often
>>> helpful to use in troubleshooting in situations where you can not access
>>> a computer by clicking it in My Network Places which may be problem with
>>> the "browse" not working correctly. The "browse" list is what you see
>>> when you look in My Network Places other than shortcuts. --- Steve
>>>
>>> "carol chilstrom" <hippiechick13-nospam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
>>> message
>>> news:wcGsf.370905$zb5.150434@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> If the second card is lost on HOST PC then DSL Internet does not
>>>> connect.
>>>> Don't I have to use ICS on the HOST in order for the 2nd PC to have DSL
>>>> Internet.
>>>> Following what the directions for the router and what ALL techs have
>>>> said
>>>> ...DON'T connect to the #1 (uplink)
>>>> Are you saying the DSL internet should go there with the button not
>>>> pressed
>>>> in and then in port 2 & 3 the two PCs?
>>>>
>>>> I do not follow the last part of your reply containing this
>>>>
>>>> ""Also try to access the computer with the share by UNC with both
>>>> computer
>>>> name and IP address to see if that works or not. In the run box put
>>>> \\computername\share or \\xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx\share where xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
>>>> is the
>>>> actual IP address of the computer with the share. Running netstat -an
>>>> on
>>>> the computer with the share should show ports 139 TCP and 445 TCP
>>>> connected
>>>> or listening.""
>>>>
>>>> I am sure that all the different tech people that have given advice and
>>>> my
>>>> mishaps have created many mistakes in WINXPPRO.
>>>> Is there a way to remove ALL the work I have done and start over with
>>>> your
>>>> advice?
>>>> For example I see several PC's on the network that I have created with
>>>> diferent names.
>>>> I have restored the host PC to before I started this and they are still
>>>> there?
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Steven L Umbach" <n9rou@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.security_admin
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 2:56 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: 2 pc network - can't see host files from pc 2 on pc 1
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> You are over complicating things. Ditch the second network card in the
>>>>> one computer and connect all computers directly to the switch that is
>>>>> integrated in the router. Do not use ICS ever unless you are using
>>>>> dial up to access the internet. All computer should be using the
>>>>> router IP as the default gateway which probably is 192.168.1.1 and can
>>>>> use the router for DHCP. Be sure to disable ICS on the one computer or
>>>>> it will also try to dish out IP addresses. Use ipconfig /all to verify
>>>>> tcp/ip configuration on the computers and verify that they can ping
>>>>> each other.
>>>>>
>>>>> XP Pro by default uses simple file sharing which uses the guest
>>>>> account for share access and shares/NTFS permissions would then need
>>>>> to include everyone group. Otherwise disable simple file sharing and
>>>>> create user accounts on each computer and configure share/NTFS
>>>>> permissions to be the access for user/group that you want to have
>>>>> access. The user trying to access the share would then need to logon
>>>>> with a user logon/password that exists on the computer with the share
>>>>> in order to access it. It may be helpful to look in the security log
>>>>> via Event Viewer of the computer with the share to see if failed logon
>>>>> events are recorded that may provide a clue as to why access is being
>>>>> denied if the user is failing to authenticate to the computer. You
>>>>> need to use Local Security Policy [secpol.msc] to make sure that the
>>>>> computer with the share has auditing of logon events enabled which it
>>>>> mat have by default.
>>>>>
>>>>> Host/software firewalls are often a cause of problems with accessing
>>>>> file shares in a network. These firewalls should be disabled [assuming
>>>>> internet router is protecting the network] until the problem is
>>>>> resolved and also booting into Safe Mode with networking should be
>>>>> tried as a troubleshooting procedure. Also try to access the computer
>>>>> with the share by UNC with both computer name and IP address to see if
>>>>> that works or not. In the run box put \\computername\share or
>>>>> \\xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx\share where xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx is the actual IP address
>>>>> of the computer with the share. Running netstat -an on the computer
>>>>> with the share should show ports 139 TCP and 445 TCP connected or
>>>>> listening. The links below may be ful. --- Steve
>>>>>
>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;Q304040 ---
>>>>> info on simple file sharing
>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;308418 ---
>>>>> configure NTFS folder/file permissions assuming NTFS file system is
>>>>> used
>>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windows2000serv/maintain/operate/adminsf.mspx
>>>>> http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/troubleshoot/
>>>>>
>>>>> "carol chilstrom" <hippiechick13-nospam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
>>>>> message
>>>>> news:Zwzsf.369057$zb5.98087@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>I am trying to network two PC's for a friend.
>>>>>> I did my research before starting the process of networking two
>>>>>> computers and have followed it to a T.
>>>>>> I have contacted the tech guys at Best Buy, Microsoft,
>>>>>> Symantec/Norton, and a software vendors tech support and none of them
>>>>>> seems to be of help. They all trhow me off to the next guy. So A
>>>>>> post in here will hopefully be fruitful to my needs. Here is what I
>>>>>> have for a layout
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Both PC's running WindowsXP PRO updated to SP2 on both.
>>>>>> SBCglobal DSL modem
>>>>>> two ethernet cards on host machine - one for DSL and the other for
>>>>>> network to the Linksys 5 port router in port 2.
>>>>>> One ethernet card on 2nd PC connected to Linksys 5 port router in
>>>>>> port 3 (port one uplink NOT USED).
>>>>>> Used network Wizard on both Pc's starting with HOST machine with
>>>>>> shared internet in group OFFICE.
>>>>>> Host machine has Norton Internet Security 2004 with all updates. It
>>>>>> has personal firewall.
>>>>>> The second machine has no security other than windows firewall which
>>>>>> is disabled/off.
>>>>>> I have run MSANTISPYWARE BETA (latest version updated), NOTHING FOUND
>>>>>> Adware PRO Nothing found,
>>>>>> AVG PRO= Nothing found
>>>>>> Norton Internet Security 2004 defaults set on all options and ran a
>>>>>> ful scan several times = Found nothing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I can get the ip address of both with ipconfig /all
>>>>>> which are:
>>>>>> Host PC = 192.168.1.100
>>>>>> 2nd PC = 192.168.1.101
>>>>>> set to "automatically assigned"
>>>>>> I can ping 192.168.1.100 & 192.168.1.101 from both machines and get
>>>>>> 128 TTL 4 timesn on both w/ no lost packets
>>>>>> I have all folders (yes ALL ) on each PC shared as well as the
>>>>>> printer connected to the HOST PC.
>>>>>> When I open MY NETWORK PLACES on desktop and then ADD NETWORK PLACE
>>>>>> then NEXT, then CHOOSE ANOTHER NETWORK PLACE, then next, then
>>>>>> Internet or network place and select BROWSE I am shown Entire
>>>>>> network, and select Microsoft Windows Network, then OFFICE, then
>>>>>> the two PC's on the network "HOST" and "a2dPC"., then I select HOST
>>>>>> and then the okay button and I recieve this eror message.
>>>>>> \\2ndPC may not have permissions to read on the host PC, see the
>>>>>> administrator of the HOST PC Well duh, thats me and I have no clue
>>>>>> how to correct this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Steven L Umbach" <n9rou@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>> news:772dnQgAZd2UYS_enZ2dnUVZ_sCdnZ2d@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> You are over complicating things. Ditch the second network card in the
>>>>> one computer and connect all computers directly to the switch that is
>>>>> integrated in the router. Do not use ICS ever unless you are using
>>>>> dial up to access the internet. All computer should be using the
>>>>> router IP as the default gateway which probably is 192.168.1.1 and can
>>>>> use the router for DHCP. Be sure to disable ICS on the one computer or
>>>>> it will also try to dish out IP addresses. Use ipconfig /all to verify
>>>>> tcp/ip configuration on the computers and verify that they can ping
>>>>> each other.
>>>>>
>>>>> XP Pro by default uses simple file sharing which uses the guest
>>>>> account for share access and shares/NTFS permissions would then need
>>>>> to include everyone group. Otherwise disable simple file sharing and
>>>>> create user accounts on each computer and configure share/NTFS
>>>>> permissions to be the access for user/group that you want to have
>>>>> access. The user trying to access the share would then need to logon
>>>>> with a user logon/password that exists on the computer with the share
>>>>> in order to access it. It may be helpful to look in the security log
>>>>> via Event Viewer of the computer with the share to see if failed logon
>>>>> events are recorded that may provide a clue as to why access is being
>>>>> denied if the user is failing to authenticate to the computer. You
>>>>> need to use Local Security Policy [secpol.msc] to make sure that the
>>>>> computer with the share has auditing of logon events enabled which it
>>>>> mat have by default.
>>>>>
>>>>> Host/software firewalls are often a cause of problems with accessing
>>>>> file shares in a network. These firewalls should be disabled [assuming
>>>>> internet router is protecting the network] until the problem is
>>>>> resolved and also booting into Safe Mode with networking should be
>>>>> tried as a troubleshooting procedure. Also try to access the computer
>>>>> with the share by UNC with both computer name and IP address to see if
>>>>> that works or not. In the run box put \\computername\share or
>>>>> \\xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx\share where xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx is the actual IP address
>>>>> of the computer with the share. Running netstat -an on the computer
>>>>> with the share should show ports 139 TCP and 445 TCP connected or
>>>>> listening. The links below may be lpful. --- Steve
>>>>>
>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;Q304040 ---
>>>>> info on simple file sharing
>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;308418 ---
>>>>> configure NTFS folder/file permissions assuming NTFS file system is
>>>>> used
>>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windows2000serv/maintain/operate/adminsf.mspx
>>>>> http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/troubleshoot/
>>>>>
>>>>> "carol chilstrom" <hippiechick13-nospam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
>>>>> message
>>>>> news:Zwzsf.369057$zb5.98087@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>I am trying to network two PC's for a friend.
>>>>>> I did my research before starting the process of networking two
>>>>>> computers and have followed it to a T.
>>>>>> I have contacted the tech guys at Best Buy, Microsoft,
>>>>>> Symantec/Norton, and a software vendors tech support and none of them
>>>>>> seems to be of help. They all trhow me off to the next guy. So A
>>>>>> post in here will hopefully be fruitful to my needs. Here is what I
>>>>>> have for a layout
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Both PC's running WindowsXP PRO updated to SP2 on both.
>>>>>> SBCglobal DSL modem
>>>>>> two ethernet cards on host machine - one for DSL and the other for
>>>>>> network to the Linksys 5 port router in port 2.
>>>>>> One ethernet card on 2nd PC connected to Linksys 5 port router in
>>>>>> port 3 (port one uplink NOT USED).
>>>>>> Used network Wizard on both Pc's starting with HOST machine with
>>>>>> shared internet in group OFFICE.
>>>>>> Host machine has Norton Internet Security 2004 with all updates. It
>>>>>> has personal firewall.
>>>>>> The second machine has no security other than windows firewall which
>>>>>> is disabled/off.
>>>>>> I have run MSANTISPYWARE BETA (latest version updated), NOTHING FOUND
>>>>>> Adware PRO Nothing found,
>>>>>> AVG PRO= Nothing found
>>>>>> Norton Internet Security 2004 defaults set on all options and ran a
>>>>>> ful scan several times = Found nothing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I can get the ip address of both with ipconfig /all
>>>>>> which are:
>>>>>> Host PC = 192.168.1.100
>>>>>> 2nd PC = 192.168.1.101
>>>>>> set to "automatically assigned"
>>>>>> I can ping 192.168.1.100 & 192.168.1.101 from both machines and get
>>>>>> 128 TTL 4 timesn on both w/ no lost packets
>>>>>> I have all folders (yes ALL ) on each PC shared as well as the
>>>>>> printer connected to the HOST PC.
>>>>>> When I open MY NETWORK PLACES on desktop and then ADD NETWORK PLACE
>>>>>> then NEXT, then CHOOSE ANOTHER NETWORK PLACE, then next, then
>>>>>> Internet or network place and select BROWSE I am shown Entire
>>>>>> network, and select Microsoft Windows Network, then OFFICE, then
>>>>>> the two PC's on the network "HOST" and "a2dPC"., then I select HOST
>>>>>> and then the okay button and I recieve this eror message.
>>>>>> \\2ndPC may not have permissions to read on the host PC, see the
>>>>>> administrator of the HOST PC Well duh, thats me and I have no clue
>>>>>> how to correct this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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