Re: 2 pc network - can't see host files from pc 2 on pc 1

No you do not have to use ICS and should not use it when you have a switch
built into your router. ICS had it's day when most everyone was on dialup.
If your router/switch has five ports then plug your computers into any port
not designated as an uplink port [which is NOT the WAN port]. I also assume
here that you have configured your router to connect to your ISP by entering
the pertinent info into the part for DSL/PPPOE which you need to do if you
have not. The DSL modem plugs into the "internet" or often called WAN port
on the router.

UNC is a way to connect to a server or share using the syntax
\\servername\sharename and can be done in the run box, at the command prompt
as part of the net use command, or in scripts. It is often helpful to use in
troubleshooting in situations where you can not access a computer by
clicking it in My Network Places which may be problem with the "browse" not
working correctly. The "browse" list is what you see when you look in My
Network Places other than shortcuts. --- Steve

"carol chilstrom" <hippiechick13-nospam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:wcGsf.370905$zb5.150434@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> If the second card is lost on HOST PC then DSL Internet does not connect.
> Don't I have to use ICS on the HOST in order for the 2nd PC to have DSL
> Internet.
> Following what the directions for the router and what ALL techs have said
> ...DON'T connect to the #1 (uplink)
> Are you saying the DSL internet should go there with the button not
> pressed
> in and then in port 2 & 3 the two PCs?
>
> I do not follow the last part of your reply containing this
>
> ""Also try to access the computer with the share by UNC with both computer
> name and IP address to see if that works or not. In the run box put
> \\computername\share or \\xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx\share where xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx is
> the
> actual IP address of the computer with the share. Running netstat -an on
> the computer with the share should show ports 139 TCP and 445 TCP
> connected
> or listening.""
>
> I am sure that all the different tech people that have given advice and my
> mishaps have created many mistakes in WINXPPRO.
> Is there a way to remove ALL the work I have done and start over with your
> advice?
> For example I see several PC's on the network that I have created with
> diferent names.
> I have restored the host PC to before I started this and they are still
> there?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steven L Umbach" <n9rou@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.security_admin
> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 2:56 PM
> Subject: Re: 2 pc network - can't see host files from pc 2 on pc 1
>
>
>> You are over complicating things. Ditch the second network card in the
>> one computer and connect all computers directly to the switch that is
>> integrated in the router. Do not use ICS ever unless you are using dial
>> up to access the internet. All computer should be using the router IP as
>> the default gateway which probably is 192.168.1.1 and can use the router
>> for DHCP. Be sure to disable ICS on the one computer or it will also try
>> to dish out IP addresses. Use ipconfig /all to verify tcp/ip
>> configuration on the computers and verify that they can ping each other.
>>
>> XP Pro by default uses simple file sharing which uses the guest account
>> for share access and shares/NTFS permissions would then need to include
>> everyone group. Otherwise disable simple file sharing and create user
>> accounts on each computer and configure share/NTFS permissions to be the
>> access for user/group that you want to have access. The user trying to
>> access the share would then need to logon with a user logon/password that
>> exists on the computer with the share in order to access it. It may be
>> helpful to look in the security log via Event Viewer of the computer with
>> the share to see if failed logon events are recorded that may provide a
>> clue as to why access is being denied if the user is failing to
>> authenticate to the computer. You need to use Local Security Policy
>> [secpol.msc] to make sure that the computer with the share has auditing
>> of logon events enabled which it mat have by default.
>>
>> Host/software firewalls are often a cause of problems with accessing file
>> shares in a network. These firewalls should be disabled [assuming
>> internet router is protecting the network] until the problem is resolved
>> and also booting into Safe Mode with networking should be tried as a
>> troubleshooting procedure. Also try to access the computer with the share
>> by UNC with both computer name and IP address to see if that works or
>> not. In the run box put \\computername\share or \\xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx\share
>> where xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx is the actual IP address of the computer with the
>> share. Running netstat -an on the computer with the share should show
>> ports 139 TCP and 445 TCP connected or listening. The links below may be
>> ful. --- Steve
>>
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;Q304040 ---
>> info on simple file sharing
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;308418 ---
>> configure NTFS folder/file permissions assuming NTFS file system is used
>> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windows2000serv/maintain/operate/adminsf.mspx
>> http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/troubleshoot/
>>
>> "carol chilstrom" <hippiechick13-nospam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
>> message news:Zwzsf.369057$zb5.98087@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>I am trying to network two PC's for a friend.
>>> I did my research before starting the process of networking two
>>> computers and have followed it to a T.
>>> I have contacted the tech guys at Best Buy, Microsoft, Symantec/Norton,
>>> and a software vendors tech support and none of them seems to be of
>>> help. They all trhow me off to the next guy. So A post in here will
>>> hopefully be fruitful to my needs. Here is what I have for a layout
>>>
>>> Both PC's running WindowsXP PRO updated to SP2 on both.
>>> SBCglobal DSL modem
>>> two ethernet cards on host machine - one for DSL and the other for
>>> network to the Linksys 5 port router in port 2.
>>> One ethernet card on 2nd PC connected to Linksys 5 port router in port 3
>>> (port one uplink NOT USED).
>>> Used network Wizard on both Pc's starting with HOST machine with shared
>>> internet in group OFFICE.
>>> Host machine has Norton Internet Security 2004 with all updates. It has
>>> personal firewall.
>>> The second machine has no security other than windows firewall which is
>>> disabled/off.
>>> I have run MSANTISPYWARE BETA (latest version updated), NOTHING FOUND
>>> Adware PRO Nothing found,
>>> AVG PRO= Nothing found
>>> Norton Internet Security 2004 defaults set on all options and ran a ful
>>> scan several times = Found nothing.
>>>
>>>
>>> I can get the ip address of both with ipconfig /all
>>> which are:
>>> Host PC = 192.168.1.100
>>> 2nd PC = 192.168.1.101
>>> set to "automatically assigned"
>>> I can ping 192.168.1.100 & 192.168.1.101 from both machines and get 128
>>> TTL 4 timesn on both w/ no lost packets
>>> I have all folders (yes ALL ) on each PC shared as well as the printer
>>> connected to the HOST PC.
>>> When I open MY NETWORK PLACES on desktop and then ADD NETWORK PLACE then
>>> NEXT, then CHOOSE ANOTHER NETWORK PLACE, then next, then Internet or
>>> network place and select BROWSE I am shown Entire network, and select
>>> Microsoft Windows Network, then OFFICE, then the two PC's on the
>>> network "HOST" and "a2dPC"., then I select HOST and then the okay button
>>> and I recieve this eror message.
>>> \\2ndPC may not have permissions to read on the host PC, see the
>>> administrator of the HOST PC Well duh, thats me and I have no clue how
>>> to correct this.
>>>
>>
>>
>
> "Steven L Umbach" <n9rou@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:772dnQgAZd2UYS_enZ2dnUVZ_sCdnZ2d@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> You are over complicating things. Ditch the second network card in the
>> one computer and connect all computers directly to the switch that is
>> integrated in the router. Do not use ICS ever unless you are using dial
>> up to access the internet. All computer should be using the router IP as
>> the default gateway which probably is 192.168.1.1 and can use the router
>> for DHCP. Be sure to disable ICS on the one computer or it will also try
>> to dish out IP addresses. Use ipconfig /all to verify tcp/ip
>> configuration on the computers and verify that they can ping each other.
>>
>> XP Pro by default uses simple file sharing which uses the guest account
>> for share access and shares/NTFS permissions would then need to include
>> everyone group. Otherwise disable simple file sharing and create user
>> accounts on each computer and configure share/NTFS permissions to be the
>> access for user/group that you want to have access. The user trying to
>> access the share would then need to logon with a user logon/password that
>> exists on the computer with the share in order to access it. It may be
>> helpful to look in the security log via Event Viewer of the computer with
>> the share to see if failed logon events are recorded that may provide a
>> clue as to why access is being denied if the user is failing to
>> authenticate to the computer. You need to use Local Security Policy
>> [secpol.msc] to make sure that the computer with the share has auditing
>> of logon events enabled which it mat have by default.
>>
>> Host/software firewalls are often a cause of problems with accessing file
>> shares in a network. These firewalls should be disabled [assuming
>> internet router is protecting the network] until the problem is resolved
>> and also booting into Safe Mode with networking should be tried as a
>> troubleshooting procedure. Also try to access the computer with the share
>> by UNC with both computer name and IP address to see if that works or
>> not. In the run box put \\computername\share or \\xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx\share
>> where xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx is the actual IP address of the computer with the
>> share. Running netstat -an on the computer with the share should show
>> ports 139 TCP and 445 TCP connected or listening. The links below may be
>> lpful. --- Steve
>>
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;Q304040 ---
>> info on simple file sharing
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;308418 ---
>> configure NTFS folder/file permissions assuming NTFS file system is used
>> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windows2000serv/maintain/operate/adminsf.mspx
>> http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/troubleshoot/
>>
>> "carol chilstrom" <hippiechick13-nospam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
>> message news:Zwzsf.369057$zb5.98087@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>I am trying to network two PC's for a friend.
>>> I did my research before starting the process of networking two
>>> computers and have followed it to a T.
>>> I have contacted the tech guys at Best Buy, Microsoft, Symantec/Norton,
>>> and a software vendors tech support and none of them seems to be of
>>> help. They all trhow me off to the next guy. So A post in here will
>>> hopefully be fruitful to my needs. Here is what I have for a layout
>>>
>>> Both PC's running WindowsXP PRO updated to SP2 on both.
>>> SBCglobal DSL modem
>>> two ethernet cards on host machine - one for DSL and the other for
>>> network to the Linksys 5 port router in port 2.
>>> One ethernet card on 2nd PC connected to Linksys 5 port router in port 3
>>> (port one uplink NOT USED).
>>> Used network Wizard on both Pc's starting with HOST machine with shared
>>> internet in group OFFICE.
>>> Host machine has Norton Internet Security 2004 with all updates. It has
>>> personal firewall.
>>> The second machine has no security other than windows firewall which is
>>> disabled/off.
>>> I have run MSANTISPYWARE BETA (latest version updated), NOTHING FOUND
>>> Adware PRO Nothing found,
>>> AVG PRO= Nothing found
>>> Norton Internet Security 2004 defaults set on all options and ran a ful
>>> scan several times = Found nothing.
>>>
>>>
>>> I can get the ip address of both with ipconfig /all
>>> which are:
>>> Host PC = 192.168.1.100
>>> 2nd PC = 192.168.1.101
>>> set to "automatically assigned"
>>> I can ping 192.168.1.100 & 192.168.1.101 from both machines and get 128
>>> TTL 4 timesn on both w/ no lost packets
>>> I have all folders (yes ALL ) on each PC shared as well as the printer
>>> connected to the HOST PC.
>>> When I open MY NETWORK PLACES on desktop and then ADD NETWORK PLACE then
>>> NEXT, then CHOOSE ANOTHER NETWORK PLACE, then next, then Internet or
>>> network place and select BROWSE I am shown Entire network, and select
>>> Microsoft Windows Network, then OFFICE, then the two PC's on the
>>> network "HOST" and "a2dPC"., then I select HOST and then the okay button
>>> and I recieve this eror message.
>>> \\2ndPC may not have permissions to read on the host PC, see the
>>> administrator of the HOST PC Well duh, thats me and I have no clue how
>>> to correct this.
>>>
>>
>>
>
>


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