Re: Security Issue, or Just Paranoid?
- From: "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net>
- Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2005 19:38:57 -0500
From: "SueInCincy" <SueInCincy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| Dave,
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| Don't use wireless ! If you must do networking, go wired.
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| I am not wireless now; I even switched to a cable modem from DSL.
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| Make sure you use a router. Specifically block TCP and UDP ports 135 ~ 139
| and 445 on that
| Router. Even better would be a full implementation of a FireWall on that
| Router.
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| Right now I am only trying to get one computer at a time safe.
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|> I appreciate your quick replies, and I don't think I made myself clear about
|> how many different ways we have tried to get this disk cleared.
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| And you still haven't. If you want help you must be specific. Of the 10's of
| thousands of infectors only a few dozen are Boot Sector Infectors and they
| will survive a reformat.
| I think I did spell out all the different ways we have used to clean off
| this hard drive, if you look at my last post.
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| Nowhere do I see anything posted about the use of anti virus software !
| Hell, for all I know you might have had the Kriz or Chernobyl viruses and
| they could have wiped the data from your disks. I guess I figured it went
| without saying that I had updated virus Protection -- first the EZ Firewall
| and Antivirus production from Computer Associates, and then Norton Internet
| Security with full updates. I also used Kapersky and Zone Alarm and Ewido,
| none of which ever found anything like a virus, or even a significant spyware
| or malware.
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| You also did reply about my information on SpyBot and the DSO False Positive
| declaration.
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| In my first post, I said that SpyBot hasn't been installed on this machine
| since at least three reformats ago.
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| It doesn't matter if I haven't "seen" what you had before. If you practice
| Safe Hex and take precautionary measures then you won't need corrective
| measures and Mommy can be Mommy.
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| I know that you are doing this as a freebie, and I appreciate that, but
| please understand that I really have done everything according to the book,
| at least according to the book that comes with the OEM software I have been
| using, and still this continues to happen. You are the first person to
| acknowledge in writing that there are Boot Sector Infectors (or whatever)
| that can survive a thorough reformat.
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| I do appreciate your expertise, but I am very frustrated by the experience
| of being treated at every turn like I am either a hypochondriac or an
| uninformed slob with poor computer hygiene. I really do appreciate your
| help.
|
| Thanks again.
|
Frankly, you still haven't stated anything substantial. You still haven't addressed the
version of SpyBot S&S and the Flase positive decalarations of the DSO Exploit.
I don't care if it is one PC or twenty. I still sugeest the use of a router. To
specifically block TCP and UDP ports 135 ~ 139 and 445 on that
Router and it would be even better to get a one with a full implementation of a FireWall on
that Router.
Changing over from DSL to Cable is a red herring. The internet security risks are equal
with both terchologies. The cahnge that has to be made is between tthe Broadband modem and
the persobnal computer(s) and that is by the use of a NAT Router or even better a NAT Router
with a full implementation of a FireWall.
This is evident by your statement... "...and the bad guys got back in before I could
download the Windows security updates, etc. The next two times I tried that method I had
evidence of the bad guys even before I downloaded any files or hooked up to the internet..
The "bad boys" (as you call them) got in becuase you did not a use a FireWall or NAT Router
when installing the Critical Updates.
If you are directly connected to a Cable modem then you are at a greater risk. That risk
being based upon you ability to secure the OS and mitigate OS and software vulnerabilities.
--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm
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