Re: Unable to login to Win XP Pro Notebook

From: Kerry Brown (kerry_at_kdbNOSPAMsystems.c*o*m)
Date: 04/24/05 

Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:12:35 -0700

"HT" <HT@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:8CB1225C-77D5-48AF-90E9-3B32121D05B4@microsoft.com...
> Thanks Loads Dave,
> This was the ticket. I got in. This is a neat tool for desparate times.
>
> I have a related question and I hope you or someone else can clarify this
> for me.
> I know that if I try to reset my domain user's password as the local
> administrator, I could could lose some files if they exist, especially the
> EFT files. This client opted to change a valid user's password on their
> network and have me login as them rather than give me my own userid. I
> would
> be petrified if I lose some EFT file that the regular user (who is on a
> leave) lost one of their files. That is why I saved all of my work on
> their
> desktop in a folder.
>
> When I get to the client's office on Monday and try to rejoin the laptop
> to
> the domain provided my userid has the rights to do that, then I hope that
> I
> will be o.k.
> The core of my question is, if the domain administrator changes the
> password
> of a domain user, are the user's EFT files o.k.? I don't recall seeing as
> a
> system admin the same warning at changing a password as I see when I am
> logged in to the local machine as an admin.
>
> Thanks

Did you mean EFS? Here's an overview of EFS. It's a long link so it may wrap
in your newsreader and break the link.

http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/Windows/XP/all/reskit/en-us/Default.asp?url=/resources/documentation/Windows/XP/all/reskit/en-us/prnb_efs_nzmz.asp

As long as they have a default recovery agent set up for the domain they can
unencrypt any files encrypted by a domain user.

Kerry

> "Dave" wrote:
>
>> search this group and probably the general microsoft.public.security
>> group,
>> sometime within the last week someone would have undoubtedly posted the
>> link
>> to several tools to reset administrator passwords on win2k or xp...
>> search
>> for 'lost password' or 'administrator password'. google will also find
>> them
>> if you search for something like 'lost administrator password reset disk
>> free download' i think this is the one i have in my office for emergency
>> use: http://home.eunet.no/~pnordahl/ntpasswd/. read the instructions and
>> follow exactly and it works just great. they are basically linux boot
>> images on a cd with a tool to edit the passwords on the hard drive. with
>> the one i got the hardest part was remembering how to burn an iso image
>> onto
>> a cd.
>>
>> "HT" <HT@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:53474E84-873B-4249-B609-324736D66441@microsoft.com...
>> > Thanks for the response - No password reset disk is available. So I
>> > guess
>> I
>> > need I need to reset the admin password. Any suggestions?
>> >
>> > "Dave" wrote:
>> >
>> > > i don't think you can get it back on the domain without having a dc
>> > > available to validate against. you may be able to use one of the
>> password
>> > > reset disks to change the administrator password so you can login
>> > > with
>> that.
>> > > you could then create a local account to work out of and take
>> > > ownership
>> of
>> > > the files you need to copy them to the new account.
>> > >
>> > > you should note for the future that it is not necessary to remove a
>> machine
>> > > from a domain to access a workgroup's resources. there is no
>> 'membership'
>> > > in a workgroup or requirement to join it, it is just a convenient way
>> > > to
>> > > organize machines in the explorer tree.
>> > >
>> > > "HT" <HT@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> > > news:D27696DB-08C6-411C-84CE-6F0ED832DFCC@microsoft.com...
>> > > > I've been doing research while waiting for a response. Do any of
>> > > > you
>> MVPs
>> > > > know if the Winternals product could help in this situation? - HT
>> > > >
>> > > > "HT" wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > This is a major call for help. I have a client's notebook and I
>> wanted
>> > > to
>> > > > > attach it to my office peer-to-peer network so that I could move
>> some
>> > > files
>> > > > > to one of my local machines. (Prior to this I always used the
>> notebook
>> > > to log
>> > > > > into the client's Win2k3 network domain.) Here is what happended
>> > > > > in
>> > > order:
>> > > > > 1. - I logged into the notebook with the client's domainname in
>> > > > > the
>> > > login box.
>> > > > > 2. - I was prompted that the domain was not available to
>> authenticate
>> > > me,
>> > > > > but it let me into the local machine anyway.
>> > > > > 3. - I went into 'My Computer' properties and selected to change
>> from
>> > > the
>> > > > > domain to the workgroup name.
>> > > > > 4. - I was prompted to input the user and passwrd with
>> > > > > permissions
>> to
>> > > remove
>> > > > > this computer from the domain. that went through o.k.
>> > > > > 5. - I rebooted.
>> > > > > 6. - I tried to login to the notebook using the same userid and
>> password
>> > > I
>> > > > > had been using. No go.
>> > > > > 7. I have tried what the client gave me for an administrator
>> password on
>> > > the
>> > > > > local machine. No go.
>> > > > > I have been using this machine for a development project and the
>> files I
>> > > > > need are on the "Desktop" folder under the user id I have been
>> using. I
>> > > have
>> > > > > no idea what, if any, users were setup on the local machine
>> > > > > before I
>> got
>> > > it.
>> > > > > Is there a way that I can log onto the client's domain using the
>> > > > > FDN
>> of
>> > > my
>> > > > > regular username and get into the machine and rejoin the domain?
>> > > > > (I
>> > > think
>> > > > > the syntax would be \\servername.domainname\username)
>> > > > > Can I do a in-place reinstall of Windows XP Pro and as
>> > > > > administrator
>> get
>> > > to
>> > > > > those files?
>> > > > > Thanks afor any and all help -- HT
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>>
>>
>>

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