Re: Spyware in Content.IES

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Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 12:21:12 -0500

Might also note that these caches are created for each user - and *I
believe* have to be deleted from within each user account one by one. In my
case I had close to 1/2 dozen "index.dat" caches weighing 2-5 megs. Had to
reboot and re-do and reboot to make it work. I am really surprised that
CleanUp does not: a> truly clean up (doesn't whack that index.dat) and b>
does not provide a Super Administrative level which can clean the User
Accounts. So I find myself opening one account after another (do you have
kids?? each wants his or her own - to which you add spouse and your own
personal limited account and if you are paranoid like me you have a separate
limited account for any financial stuff) running cleanup and usually
changing folder for temp files to scrub index.dat. Seems there ought to be a
better solution.

"David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message
news:OOsEidd0EHA.1452@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> The idea of a cache predates broadband and thus slow dialup 14,400 baud
> was common and you
> wanted to create a cache. I still think there is nothing wrong with
> having a cache with
> Broadband or nodes on a LAN. I just cap it at a logical size.
>
> To complicate this conversation ;-)
> I'll bring the comparison of NTFS and FAT32 into the equation and the
> cluster size. When
> you use FAT32 the cluster size increases as the size of the disk partition
> increases. So if
> the cluster size is 16KB or 32KB because you are use a large multi-GB hard
> disk, then all
> those 10's of thousands of small cache files really waste a lot of space.
> For example a 4KB
> file on a 16KB cluster size will actually consume 16KB of disk space and a
> 17KB file will
> actually consume 32KB of disk space. As you can see the space consumption
> per file is
> always rounded up to the next cluster margin.
>
> So again there is a reason NOT to have a very large cache and you have
> cited some other
> negative consequences that are brought about by having a very large IE
> cache.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> "Wesley Vogel" <123WVogel955@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:%23rib1Od0EHA.3744@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> | Dave,
> |
> | I don't understand everything I know about it. I do know that with
> cable I
> | don't want to cache anything. Keep it on the servers.
> |
> | I do know that there are people with Content.IE5 folders that *never*
> get
> | emptied. Before I started deleting index.dats, they would grow so large
> | that Notepad would puke before opening them.
> |
> | You ever see what kind of crap is in the "cache"? I clean mine out
> daily,
> | if not more often. I use OE for newsgroups. OE creates a zero byte
> file
> | for every message read. Plus wbkXYZ.tmp files when you Save a message
> your
> | working on, every time you hit Save. Yes some of this gets emptied when
> you
> | close IE & OE, but not all.
> |
> | I've been online about three hours. I just looked, 134 of the
> wbk1D8.tmp
> | files. Probably more now, I've Saved this message a couple of times
> since
> | that count. ;-) 91 of the zero byte files. My TIF folder is 0.99 MB.
> | Content.IE5\index.dat is only 128KB, it was 32KB when I started.
> |
> | I do not necessarily believe this...
> |
> | [[Index.dat is the Internet Explorer cache index file. It facilitates
> the
> | browser cache mechanism that speeds access to frequently accessed web
> pages
> | across different browser processes in the same user context.]]
> |
> | From...
> | Temporary Internet Files Use More Disk Space Than Specified
> | http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;301057
> |
> | The following are actual MSKB titles. The names have not been changed
> to
> | protect the innocent. Do not try this at home.
> |
> | Here are a few problems that may be caused by Temporary Internet Files
> that
> | are too full....
> |
> | Internet Explorer Saves Images As Bitmaps (.bmp Files)
> | The Disk Cleanup Tool Stops Responding
> | Error Message When You Open Photo: "The Page Cannot Be Displayed"
> | OL2000: Internet Free/Busy Information Not Updated
> | Money: Error Message: Money Is Unable to Verify Your Online Sign In
> | OLEXP: Sent Web Page Is the Cached Version of the Web Page Not the Most
> | Current Version of the Web Page
> | Outlook Express message appears blank and has an ATT000XX.txt or an
> | ATT000XX.htm attachment
> |
> | --
> | Hope this helps. Let us know.
> | Wes
> |
> | In news:%23DmBcIc0EHA.3820@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl,
> | David H. Lipman <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> hunted and pecked:
> | > Wesley:
> | >
> | > It blows my mind that there are IE caches out there that are 1GB
> | > large. Since cached Internet files tend to be small, that means
> | > there are 10's of thousands of files in the cache. The whole idea of
> | > the cache is to speed up access on slow internet connections by
> | > keeping some content local. However, when the cache get large it
> | > takes as long or longer to search the cache for the data than getting
> | > it from the Internet. I also want to mention that having a large IE
> | > cache also slows down AV "On Demand" scans, CHKDSK functions and
> | > defragmentation.
> | >
> | > Dave
> | >
> | >
> | >
> | >
> | > "Wesley Vogel" <123WVogel955@comcast.net> wrote in message
> | > news:uAHQglb0EHA.1296@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> | >> Mine's 1MB. All index.dat files get deleted on every boot, whether
> | >> they need it or not. ;-)
> | >>
> | >> --
> | >> Hope this helps. Let us know.
> | >> Wes
> | >>
> | >> In news:ObMxP5a0EHA.2804@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl,
> | >> David H. Lipman <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> hunted and pecked:
> | >>> MS uses a percentage of the hard disk for the cache. This is
> | >>> ridiculous for today's large hard disks. The cache does NOT have to
> | >>> be any larger than ~10MB.
> | >>>
> | >>> Dave
> | >>>
> | >>>
> | >>>
> | >>>
> | >>> "Cycloid Torus" <fictitious@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> | >>> news:xtxod.23$Gu2.13@fe11.lga...
> | >>>> Just to add, I find changing the file location for "Temporary
> | >>>> Internet Files" makes "index.dat" (which swells up like a balloon)
> | >>>> go away. This might be key in eliminating "cached" content you do
> | >>>> not want. Not sure, but cutting the fat out of "index.dat" made my
> | >>>> browser very much faster.
> | >>>> CT
> | >>>>
> | >>>> "Wesley Vogel" <123WVogel955@comcast.net> wrote in message
> | >>>> news:%231A31rP0EHA.3336@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> | >>>>> To delete *all* Temporary Internet Files...
> | >>>>>
> | >>>>> 1) Start | Run | Type: inetcpl.cpl | OK
> | >>>>> Or right click the Internet Explorer icon on your Desktop.
> | >>>>> Or: Start | Settings | Control Panel | Internet Options.
> | >>>>> Best to do this with all instances of Internet Explorer closed.
> | >>>>> Especially
> | >>>>> if there are a large number of files.
> | >>>>> 2) On the General Tab, in the middle of the screen, click on
> | >>>>> Delete Files 3) Check the box � Delete all offline content
> | >>>>> {This cleans
> | >>>>>>> C:\Documents
> | >>>>> and Settings\YourNameHere\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files
> | >>>>> AND C:\Documents and Settings\YourNameHere\Local
> | >>>>> Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5 and \Content.MSO
> | >>>>> 4) Click on OK and wait for the hourglass icon to stop after it
> | >>>>> deletes the
> | >>>>> temporary internet files
> | >>>>> 5) You can now click on Delete Cookies and click OK to delete
> | >>>>> cookies that websites have placed on your hard drive.
> | >>>>>
> | >>>>> --
> | >>>>> Hope this helps. Let us know.
> | >>>>> Wes
> | >>>>>
> | >>>>> In news:853C3747-8A88-4E6C-AEB4-09955897429C@microsoft.com,
> | >>>>> mnbizz <mnbizz@discussions.microsoft.com> hunted and pecked:
> | >>>>>> Dave,
> | >>>>>> I'd have to go with you on this one as I can count on no hands
> | >>>>>> how many times deleting from within IE has worked...what a
> | >>>>>> fricking joke that is...IE just stalls out, especially if there
> | >>>>>> is spyware involved! Just what the heck does MVP stand for
> | >>>>>> anyways.
> | >>>>>>
> | >>>>>> "David H. Lipman" wrote:
> | >>>>>>
> | >>>>>>> Funny guy....
> | >>>>>>>
> | >>>>>>> Dave
> | >>>>>>>
> | >>>>>>>
> | >>>>>>>
> | >>>>>>>
> | >>>>>>> "Kent W. England [MVP]" <kwe@mvps.org> wrote in message
> | >>>>>>> news:%23nPla3snEHA.3396@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> | >>>>>>>> David H. Lipman wrote on 19-Sep-2004 7:46 PM:
> | >>>>>>>>> Clean -- By what solution ?
> | >>>>>>>>>
> | >>>>>>>> Kent:1, David:0 :-)
> |
>
>

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