Re: Power User

From: Phil (pkteumaatrogersdotcom)
Date: 10/31/04


Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2004 10:44:44 -0500

Thanks for all the info, guys.
Next time I'm over there I'll try the 'run as...' option on the app in
question (assuming they haven't screwed with that, too).

"Wesley Vogel" <123WVogel955@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:ewf9Et1vEHA.2116@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
Juan,

Home does have it's limitations. ;-)

-- 
Hope this helps.  Let us know.
Wes
In news:OSz8ETvvEHA.3728@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl,
Juan <soyquiensoy@terra.com> hunted and pecked:
> Thanks for the info Wes:   As I see it, the WXP Home Edition is
> not something I'd settle with.. I certainly will never go for anything
> less than XP, but Pro is the way to go!
>
> ---------------Last Message-------------
> "Wesley Vogel" <123WVogel955@comcast.net> escribió en el mensaje
> news:OhygXnpvEHA.3080@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> I do have experience with XP Home.  XP Home lacks a number of things
>> that XP Pro has and it certainly can be confusing.  :-)
>>
>> No.  The Power Users group doesn't exist on WINDOWS XP Home Edition.
>>
>> No.  Local Users and Groups will popup an error in XP Home.
>>
>> Yes.  This can be confusing, if you have XP Home.  Maybe even if you
>> do not have XP Home.  ;-)
>>
>> On a stand alone machine, with XP Home.
>> control userpasswords2 Brings up User Accounts, the one you would
>> get from My Computer | Manage | Local Users and Groups.
>>
>> And this is what you'll get when you try to access...
>>
>> [[The userpasswords2 applet should not be used on WINDOWS XP Home
>> Edition as a tool to edit or modify users.  It is reserved for
>> WINDOWS XP Professional Edition. The reason for this is that
>> userpasswords2 allows the user to access to the 'Power Users' group
>> which doesn't exist on WINDOWS XP Home Edition.]]
>>
>> If you try to access Local Users and Groups (Local) with XP Home,
>> you will get...
>>
>> [[This computer is running Windows XP Home Edition.  This snapin may
>> not be used with that version of Windows.  To manage user accounts
>> for this computer, use the User Accounts tool in the Control Panel]]
>>
>> control userpasswords is what should be used with XP Home, *not*
>> control userpasswords2!
>>
>> Power Users group are not supported by WinXP Home, so one should not
>> try to assign such privileges to an existing account, or else errors
>> will appear. Such as:
>>
>> [[The user could not be added because the following error has
>> occurred, The group name could not be found: When creating a new
>> user and make it member of the 'Power Users' group.]]
>>
>> [[The group membership for <ComputerName\UserName> could not be
>> updated : When updating an existing user, adding him to the 'Power
>> Users group'. ]]
>>
>> Local Users and Groups overview
>> [[Local Users and Groups is a tool you can use to manage local users
>> and groups. It is available on the following operating systems:
>> Windows 2000 Professional
>> Windows XP Professional
>> Member servers running Windows 2000 Server]]
>>
>> Local Users and Groups overview
>>
>
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/lsm_overview_01.mspx
>>
>> This is KB817365 which for some reason has been pulled from MS-KB.
>> Although I have a copy and this is the same as KB817365.
>> Creation of user in the 'Power Users' group with 'Control
>> Userpasswords2' http://www.it-faq.pl/mskb/817/365.HTM
>>
>> 13. Advanced User Management in Windows XP Home
>> http://snakefoot.fateback.com/tweak/winnt/usermgt.html#USERPASSWORDS2
>>
>> It is so like Microsoft to name things similarly.  Just to confuse
>> people, IMHO.
>> control userpasswords = User Accounts
>> control userpasswords2 = User Accounts
>> But they are *not* the same.
>>
>> If you want to be a member of the Power Users group, get Windows XP
>> Professional.
>>
>> --
>> Hope this helps.  Let us know.
>> Wes
>>
>> In news:u1pOkMjvEHA.3916@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl,
>> Juan <soyquiensoy@terra.com> hunted and pecked:
>>> I have no experience with Home Edition but... the power
>>> users group is available in every Windows OS version,...
>>> So why should Home Edition be the exception?.
>>> KB Article 303248 reads:
>>> In Windows XP Home Edition, the Computer Management snap-in
>>> does not display the "Local Users and Groups" node. The Local
>>> Users and Groups snap-in cannot be added to a custom MMC.
>>> This is a limitation of Windows XP Home Edition, not a result of
>>> Simple File Sharing. It says does not display, it doesn't say not
>>> available...
>>> I may be wrong but... there's no harm in trying.  Do as follows and
>>> clear the doubt for us.  (post your results)
>>>
>>> In Home Edition you have to logon in Safe Mode, for Simple File
>>> Sharing to be disabled (you may be able to see the Local Users
>>> and Groups)
>>>
>>> Computer Management Commands Are Not Available with
>>> Simple File Sharing Enabled
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;303248
>>>
>>> How To Create and Configure User Accounts in Windows XP
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en;279783#2
>>>
>>> To create a new local users group
>>>
>>>   1..Open Computer Management.
>>>   2.. In the console tree click on Groups.
>>>     • Computer Management
>>>     • System Tools
>>>     • Local Users and Groups
>>>     • Groups
>>>   3.. Click on Action and, next, on New group.
>>>   4.. In Group Name, write a name for the new group.
>>>   5.. In Description, write description for the new group.
>>>   6..Click on Create and, then, on Close.
>>>
>>> Notes
>>>   a.. To open Computer Management, click on Start and next, on
>>> Control Panel. Click on Performance and mantenance, Administration
>>> Tools and next, double click on Computer Administration.
>>>   b.. To add one or more users to the new group, after step 5 click
>>> on Add.
>>>
>>> Hope this helps.
>>>
>>> --------------Original Message-------------------------
>>> "Phil" <pkteumaatrogersdotcom> escribió en el mensaje
>>> news:T8Cdnde7t5U-YR_cRVn-3w@rogers.com...
>>>> I think it's XP Home (not my computer). So nice of the help files
>>>> to say there is no Power Users option!
>>>>
>>>> "Wesley Vogel" <123WVogel955@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:uVvbFZdvEHA.3376@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>>> XP Home?  Home does not have Power Users.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Hope this helps.  Let us know.
>>>> Wes
>>>>
>>>> In news:q9CdnfJjxMayLhzcRVn-tg@rogers.com,
>>>> Phil <pkteumaatrogersdotcom> hunted and pecked:
>>>>> I have no options for setting-up a 'power user'. The User Accounts
>>>>> control panel only has Administrator or Restricted users and the
>>>>> Computer Management control panel has no Users or Groups folders.


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