Re: Power User
From: Juan (soyquiensoy_at_terra.com)
Date: 10/31/04
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Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2004 19:47:56 -0700
Thanks for the info Wes: As I see it, the WXP Home Edition is
not something I'd settle with.. I certainly will never go for anything
less than XP, but Pro is the way to go!
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"Wesley Vogel" <123WVogel955@comcast.net> escribió en el mensaje
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> I do have experience with XP Home. XP Home lacks a number of things that
XP
> Pro has and it certainly can be confusing. :-)
>
> No. The Power Users group doesn't exist on WINDOWS XP Home Edition.
>
> No. Local Users and Groups will popup an error in XP Home.
>
> Yes. This can be confusing, if you have XP Home. Maybe even if you do
not
> have XP Home. ;-)
>
> On a stand alone machine, with XP Home.
> control userpasswords2 Brings up User Accounts, the one you would get from
> My Computer | Manage | Local Users and Groups.
>
> And this is what you'll get when you try to access...
>
> [[The userpasswords2 applet should not be used on WINDOWS XP Home Edition
as
> a tool to edit or modify users. It is reserved for WINDOWS XP
Professional
> Edition. The reason for this is that userpasswords2 allows the user to
> access to the 'Power Users' group which doesn't exist on WINDOWS XP Home
> Edition.]]
>
> If you try to access Local Users and Groups (Local) with XP Home, you will
> get...
>
> [[This computer is running Windows XP Home Edition. This snapin may not
be
> used with that version of Windows. To manage user accounts for this
> computer, use the User Accounts tool in the Control Panel]]
>
> control userpasswords is what should be used with XP Home, *not* control
> userpasswords2!
>
> Power Users group are not supported by WinXP Home, so one should not try
to
> assign such privileges to an existing account, or else errors will appear.
> Such as:
>
> [[The user could not be added because the following error has occurred,
The
> group name could not be found: When creating a new user and make it member
> of the 'Power Users' group.]]
>
> [[The group membership for <ComputerName\UserName> could not be updated :
> When updating an existing user, adding him to the 'Power Users group'. ]]
>
> Local Users and Groups overview
> [[Local Users and Groups is a tool you can use to manage local users and
> groups. It is available on the following operating systems:
> Windows 2000 Professional
> Windows XP Professional
> Member servers running Windows 2000 Server]]
>
> Local Users and Groups overview
>
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/lsm_overview_01.mspx
>
> This is KB817365 which for some reason has been pulled from MS-KB.
> Although I have a copy and this is the same as KB817365.
> Creation of user in the 'Power Users' group with 'Control Userpasswords2'
> http://www.it-faq.pl/mskb/817/365.HTM
>
> 13. Advanced User Management in Windows XP Home
> http://snakefoot.fateback.com/tweak/winnt/usermgt.html#USERPASSWORDS2
>
> It is so like Microsoft to name things similarly. Just to confuse people,
> IMHO.
> control userpasswords = User Accounts
> control userpasswords2 = User Accounts
> But they are *not* the same.
>
> If you want to be a member of the Power Users group, get Windows XP
> Professional.
>
> --
> Hope this helps. Let us know.
> Wes
>
> In news:u1pOkMjvEHA.3916@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl,
> Juan <soyquiensoy@terra.com> hunted and pecked:
> > I have no experience with Home Edition but... the power
> > users group is available in every Windows OS version,...
> > So why should Home Edition be the exception?.
> > KB Article 303248 reads:
> > In Windows XP Home Edition, the Computer Management snap-in
> > does not display the "Local Users and Groups" node. The Local
> > Users and Groups snap-in cannot be added to a custom MMC.
> > This is a limitation of Windows XP Home Edition, not a result of
> > Simple File Sharing. It says does not display, it doesn't say not
> > available...
> > I may be wrong but... there's no harm in trying. Do as follows and
> > clear the doubt for us. (post your results)
> >
> > In Home Edition you have to logon in Safe Mode, for Simple File
> > Sharing to be disabled (you may be able to see the Local Users
> > and Groups)
> >
> > Computer Management Commands Are Not Available with
> > Simple File Sharing Enabled
> > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;303248
> >
> > How To Create and Configure User Accounts in Windows XP
> > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en;279783#2
> >
> > To create a new local users group
> >
> > 1..Open Computer Management.
> > 2.. In the console tree click on Groups.
> > • Computer Management
> > • System Tools
> > • Local Users and Groups
> > • Groups
> > 3.. Click on Action and, next, on New group.
> > 4.. In Group Name, write a name for the new group.
> > 5.. In Description, write description for the new group.
> > 6..Click on Create and, then, on Close.
> >
> > Notes
> > a.. To open Computer Management, click on Start and next, on Control
> > Panel. Click on Performance and mantenance, Administration Tools and
> > next, double click on Computer Administration.
> > b.. To add one or more users to the new group, after step 5 click
> > on Add.
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> >
> > --------------Original Message-------------------------
> > "Phil" <pkteumaatrogersdotcom> escribió en el mensaje
> > news:T8Cdnde7t5U-YR_cRVn-3w@rogers.com...
> >> I think it's XP Home (not my computer). So nice of the help files to
> >> say there is no Power Users option!
> >>
> >> "Wesley Vogel" <123WVogel955@comcast.net> wrote in message
> >> news:uVvbFZdvEHA.3376@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> >> XP Home? Home does not have Power Users.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Hope this helps. Let us know.
> >> Wes
> >>
> >> In news:q9CdnfJjxMayLhzcRVn-tg@rogers.com,
> >> Phil <pkteumaatrogersdotcom> hunted and pecked:
> >>> I have no options for setting-up a 'power user'. The User Accounts
> >>> control panel only has Administrator or Restricted users and the
> >>> Computer Management control panel has no Users or Groups folders.
>
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