Re: NetBIOS over IP -- XP to NT via VPN

From: Randy Shearer (rshearer_at_sympatico.ca)
Date: 10/06/04


Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 10:08:24 -0400


"Randy Shearer" <rshearer@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
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> > Randy Shearer wrote:
> > > "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
> > > <lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmail.atyahoo.com> wrote in
> > > message news:uBVf18uqEHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > >> Hi -
> > >>
> > >> Randy Shearer wrote:
> > >>> I am trying to browse my NT Server from a remote XP machine,
> > >>> connected by a VPN.
> > >>>
> > >>> I believe that NetBIOS over IP is required in order for my XP
> > >>> machine to see the NT Server shares.
> > >>> I have the VPN created, NetBIOS ports are open, I can ping the NT
> > >>> Server, but I cannot see it's shares.
> > >>
> > >> Ping it by name?
> > >>>
> > >>> I have selected the option to "Enable NetBIOS over IP" in the
> > >>> properties of the PPPoE and the NIC. However, when I run "ipconfig
> > >>> /all", I see that "NetBIOS over IP" is listed as "Disabled" (!!!)
> > >>> How do I really enable it?
> > >>
> > >> Browsing over a VPN connection can be difficult, to say the least.
> > >> Broadcast traffic can't be routed. Do you have WINS? I'd think so -
> > >> can you specify the WINS server IP manually in your network
> > >> connection properties for the VPN connection?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>
> > >>> Any help would be very much appreciated.
> > >>>
> > >>> thanks,
> > >>>
> > >>> rs
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > > Ping by name? Yes I can. But the resolution comes from the LHHOSTS
> > > file. WINS is availalble on the far LAN, but I initially put entries
> > > into the LMHOSTS for speed of access, and becasue the names I need
> > > are always static.
> >
> > If that's true, and you've added the #DOM and 0x1b entries as per
> > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;150800, perhaps
> this
> > isn't needed?
> >
>
> Thanks for the 150800.... I already had found that article, and have it
> printed.
> I have the #DOM and 1b entries. This provides resolution to the address
and
> defines it's role, right?
> What do you refer to when you say "this isn't needed?"
>
>
>
>
> > > For interest sake, I tried adding my WINS server
> > > address to my remote PC... no change...
> >
> > Don't use your LMHOSTS file when trying this if you have dupes. Rename
it
> &
> > reboot or run nbtstat -R.
> > Does your computer show up as registered in the WINS? database? Do all
> > servers & clients show up in WINS?
> >
>
> What are "dupes" ???
>
> About not using the hosts entries... you seem to prefer Wins over host
> files. Is there something that my wins server will do that lmhosts does
> not? I understood that lmhosts does everything that a Wins server can,
just
> not automated. I also understood that Wins does not resolve "shares" or
> resources on the hosts. Am I am wrong? Will Wins bring something to the
> table here that enable me to see those shares?
>
>
>
>
> > If you type in
> >
> > nbtstat -c
> >
> > What do you see?
> >
> > > my remote pc still fails to
> > > see the NetBIOS share names on the NT Server, and thus cannot map a
> > > drive letter.
> > > From my reading NetBIOS over IP needs to be working, and although it
> > > is enabled in properties of both the network interfaces, it does not
> > > show as enabled. If it deos not work, I don't think I can make the
> > > connection.
> > > So back to my question... Do you know how to force my interfaces to
> > > use NetBIOS over IP?
> >
> > Perhaps this is related to NAT - are you behind a router/gateway. You've
> > already set NetBIOS over TCP/IP to be enabled.
> >
>
>
>
> no NAT, just a direct connect to a DSL modem.
>
>
>
>
> > But I'm curious about the WINS stuff if you care to check into it
further.
> > It really is supposed to work.
> >
>
> I will try using only wins... but even if wins does do more than I
thought
> (into resolving share names), is NetBIOS traffic still not needed to see
the
> data in that share.
>
> So I keep coming back to what everybody I talk to is avoiding... NetBIOS
> over IP is supposed to be working, and it is not. Will I not need this
> working regardless? From the many hours of reading I have done, this will
> be needed for the browsing to work. Why does does it show as Disabled?
>
>
>
> > Some possibly interesting reading:
> > http://www.faughnan.com/netbios.html
> >
>
> thanks... have read this too.
>
>
>
> > >
> > > thanks for taking the time to consider this...
> >
> > No prob - hope it's actually helping.
> > >
> > > Randy
> >

ok - I removed the lmhosts entries, and put in the wins server address.
( the wins server is on the far lan, and that lan cannot be seen until the
pc sets up the VPN... it is software based, not a hardware appliance )
There is no resolution. In fact, with the lmhosts entries removed, and wins
enabled, I could not evern ping the servers. This I did not expect. Don't
know why, but that is what happened.



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