Re: NetBIOS over IP -- XP to NT via VPN

From: Randy Shearer (rshearer_at_sympatico.ca)
Date: 10/06/04 

Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 09:41:55 -0400

"Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
<lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmail.atyahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Randy Shearer wrote:
> > "Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
> > <lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmail.atyahoo.com> wrote in
> > message news:uBVf18uqEHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> >> Hi -
> >>
> >> Randy Shearer wrote:
> >>> I am trying to browse my NT Server from a remote XP machine,
> >>> connected by a VPN.
> >>>
> >>> I believe that NetBIOS over IP is required in order for my XP
> >>> machine to see the NT Server shares.
> >>> I have the VPN created, NetBIOS ports are open, I can ping the NT
> >>> Server, but I cannot see it's shares.
> >>
> >> Ping it by name?
> >>>
> >>> I have selected the option to "Enable NetBIOS over IP" in the
> >>> properties of the PPPoE and the NIC. However, when I run "ipconfig
> >>> /all", I see that "NetBIOS over IP" is listed as "Disabled" (!!!)
> >>> How do I really enable it?
> >>
> >> Browsing over a VPN connection can be difficult, to say the least.
> >> Broadcast traffic can't be routed. Do you have WINS? I'd think so -
> >> can you specify the WINS server IP manually in your network
> >> connection properties for the VPN connection?
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Any help would be very much appreciated.
> >>>
> >>> thanks,
> >>>
> >>> rs
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Ping by name? Yes I can. But the resolution comes from the LHHOSTS
> > file. WINS is availalble on the far LAN, but I initially put entries
> > into the LMHOSTS for speed of access, and becasue the names I need
> > are always static.
>
> If that's true, and you've added the #DOM and 0x1b entries as per
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;150800, perhaps
this
> isn't needed?
>

Thanks for the 150800.... I already had found that article, and have it
printed.
I have the #DOM and 1b entries. This provides resolution to the address and
defines it's role, right?
What do you refer to when you say "this isn't needed?"

> > For interest sake, I tried adding my WINS server
> > address to my remote PC... no change...
>
> Don't use your LMHOSTS file when trying this if you have dupes. Rename it
&
> reboot or run nbtstat -R.
> Does your computer show up as registered in the WINS? database? Do all
> servers & clients show up in WINS?
>

What are "dupes" ???

About not using the hosts entries... you seem to prefer Wins over host
files. Is there something that my wins server will do that lmhosts does
not? I understood that lmhosts does everything that a Wins server can, just
not automated. I also understood that Wins does not resolve "shares" or
resources on the hosts. Am I am wrong? Will Wins bring something to the
table here that enable me to see those shares?

> If you type in
>
> nbtstat -c
>
> What do you see?
>
> > my remote pc still fails to
> > see the NetBIOS share names on the NT Server, and thus cannot map a
> > drive letter.
> > From my reading NetBIOS over IP needs to be working, and although it
> > is enabled in properties of both the network interfaces, it does not
> > show as enabled. If it deos not work, I don't think I can make the
> > connection.
> > So back to my question... Do you know how to force my interfaces to
> > use NetBIOS over IP?
>
> Perhaps this is related to NAT - are you behind a router/gateway. You've
> already set NetBIOS over TCP/IP to be enabled.
>

no NAT, just a direct connect to a DSL modem.

> But I'm curious about the WINS stuff if you care to check into it further.
> It really is supposed to work.
>

I will try using only wins... but even if wins does do more than I thought
(into resolving share names), is NetBIOS traffic still not needed to see the
data in that share.

So I keep coming back to what everybody I talk to is avoiding... NetBIOS
over IP is supposed to be working, and it is not. Will I not need this
working regardless? From the many hours of reading I have done, this will
be needed for the browsing to work. Why does does it show as Disabled?

> Some possibly interesting reading:
> http://www.faughnan.com/netbios.html
>

thanks... have read this too.

> >
> > thanks for taking the time to consider this...
>
> No prob - hope it's actually helping.
> >
> > Randy
>
>

Relevant Pages

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