Re: Where is Microsoft Anti-Virus????
From: Seth Brundle (brundlefly76_at_hotmail.com)
Date: 10/02/04
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Date: 2 Oct 2004 08:51:12 -0700
Well, for all you MVP's who insist that OS manufacturers are not
responsible for antivirus solution on some sort of 'logical' argument
should note that your boss just announced that MS would be launching
its own spyware cleaner - a great first step.
And as for M$ 'not being an expert at antivirus', which is pretty
funny, because the main focus of their organization in recent months
has been frantically bulletproofing and patching exploits at the
expense of pushing the next version of windows into half of what it
was supposed to be and twice as farther out, and lets not forget that
they actually *own the code*, which is a huge help.
Finally, they have more cash then just about any other company, and
buying companies to add to their software lineup isnt anything new -
they've certainly made worse aquisition decisions. A company that size
does not need resources lying around to build antivirus, and that
wouldnt be a good idea anyway - just BUY someone who is already on the
job - there are at least 6 targets.
Leaving the purchase, installation, and correct use of antivirus in
the hands of users will never be an effective internet security
solution - the goal is not to protect this users computer or that
users computer - the goal is internet security. We also cant expect
*every single user* to be able to afford and install antivirus
software. It needs to come with the OS.
In short, my 80 year old grandmother should be able to buy a new
windows computer, and expect it to be secure without my help.
If we want internet security, we need OS's that insure they are
patched and protected with AV PRIOR to general usage, not as an
afterthought. Clearly, that strategy has never worked, as it simply
results in a global game of whack-a-mole.
We certainly have the technology. As soon as windows installs are
configured for internet usage, they should not be able to do a damn
thing on the internet until all security updates and virus definitions
are downloaded and installed. This isnt rocket science. Its common
sense in a world where windows computers on the internet are
compromised within 20 minutes.
"Carey Frisch [MVP]" <cnfrisch@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message news:<O3D4JjboEHA.896@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl>...
> No version of Microsoft Windows ever included an
> antivirus program. When you purchased your last car,
> did the sales price include auto insurance?
>
> Insuring against contracting computer viruses is a
> personal responsibility. There are some free antivirus
> programs you can use, if you wish, such as:
>
> AVG Anti-Virus FREE Edition
> http://free.grisoft.com/freeweb.php/doc/2/
>
> Frequently asked questions about Windows Security Center
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;883792&Product=windowsxpsp2
>
> Frequently Asked Questions About Antivirus Software
> http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/antivirus.mspx
>
> --
> Carey Frisch
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows XP - Shell/User
>
> Be Smart! Protect Your PC!
> http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/default.aspx
>
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>
> "Seth Brundle" wrote:
>
> | When completing my install of Service Pack 2, I was happy to see the
> | firewall preconfigured and up-front to the user, which was an
> | excellent step forward in security for Windows.
> |
> | However, I was shocked to see a balloon suggesting I purchase a
> | third-party antivirus program (!!!)
> |
> | Microsoft, as a non open-source operating system company, needs to
> | accept responsibility for anti-virus products, or open up its source
> | code. Only those in possesion of the source code itself are best able
> | to manage a comprehensive and fast-response antivirus system.
> |
> | To both acknowledge that your operating system is virus-prone and
> | suggest you pay someone else to protect you from Microsoft's insecure
> | software is very ironic.
> |
> | Rather then promoting the anti-virus market by advertising third-party
> | products, why isnt Microsoft simply accepting the reponsibility of its
> | operating system security from end to end with an anti-virus
> | product??? As the owner of the OS, source code, and Windows
> | developers, and as one of the most cash-laden companies in the world,
> | they alone are best equipped to undertake this task, yet they seem
> | fine with simply letting their lack of security support a third-party
> | software market.
> |
> | I dont want to pay $80 for my operating system, then pay another 50%
> | of the cost of the netire operating system to a third party to protect
> | me from its vulnerabilities - having the OS reccommend this is
> | insulting.
> |
> | ????
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