Re: Microsoft Windows Network & Web Client Network - somebody connected to my computer?
From: Patrick Briggs (pbriggsiam_at_eclipse.net)
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 02:14:40 -0700
Thank you for the basics. I'm aware of most of the basics. I have Norton
Anti-Virus and Security. I keep it updated on both counts every other day.
I use Windows XP. I scan for Windows updates at least once a week and
whenever a bug is found.
I have a very specific issue which has yet to cause me performance or
missing data problems.
As I mentioned, I have entries under Entire Network which shouldn't likely
be there. One appears to be the person who has access to my cpu. The other
a government website.
I'm trying to secure my computer from outside connections that shouldn't be
Doing the best I can at absorbing the necessary information about security.
"Shenan Stanley" <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote in message
> Patrick Briggs wrote:
> > I know very little about security other than to keep Norton Internet
> > Security running always. I noticed today when looking at Windows
> > Explorer at my Entire Network....that have entries under Microsoft
> > Windows Network and under Web Client Network.
> > For the former it reads "Lekker_home" and for the latter it reads
> > Www.niaid.nih.gov . I'm concerned that somebody has access to my
> > computer despite Norton Security.
> > Can someone tell me how to delete these connections? I don't see how
> > to because when I right click on either of them I don't see that
> > option. I do see properties but it shows me nothing.
> > I also noticed that in Internet Explorer when I selected under the
> > Help menu - Online Support, I was taken to Microsoft Support
> > defaulted to German! This just seems to further confirm that somebody
> > has access to my computer (Lekker being a German sounding name
> > anyway).
> > Wish I understood this more. I hope somebody can help me to wipe the
> > slate clean on my cpu. Maybe some steps to take to secure my cpu
> > again?
> How about learning more abouit securing your system then?
> Suggestions on what you can do to secure/clean your PC. I'm going to try
> and be general, I will assume a "Windows" operating system is what is
> being secured here.
> UPDATES and PATCHES
> This one is the most obvious. There is no perfect product and any company
> worth their salt will try to meet/exceed the needs of their customers and
> fix any problems they find along the way. I am not going to say Microsoft
> is the best company in the world about this but they do have an option
> available for you to use to keep your machine updated and patched from
> the problems and vulnerabilities (as well as product improvements in some
> cases) - and it's free to you.
> Windows Update
> Go there and scan your machine for updates. Always get the critical ones
> you see them. Write down the KB###### or Q###### you see when selecting
> updates and if you have trouble over the next few days, go into your
> panel (Add/Remove Programs), match up the latest numbers you downloaded
> recently (since you started noticing an issue) and uninstall them. If
> was more than one (usually is), install them back one by one - with a few
> hours of use in between, to see if the problem returns. Yes - the process
> is not perfect (updating) and can cause trouble like I mentioned - but as
> you can see, the solution isn't that bad - and is MUCH better than the
> alternatives. (SASSER/BLASTER were SO preventable with just this step!)
> Windows is not the only product you likely have on your PC. The
> manufacturers of the other products usually have updates as well. New
> versions of almost everything come out all the time - some are free, some
> are pay - some you can only download if you are registered - but it is
> to check. Just go to their web pages and look under their support and
> download sections.
> You also have hardware on your machine that requires drivers to interface
> with the operating system. You have a video card that allows you to see
> your screen, a sound card that allows you to hear your PCs sound output
> so on. Visit those manufacturer web sites for the latest downloadable
> drivers for your hardware/operating system. Always (IMO) get the
> manufacturers hardware driver over any Microsoft offers. On the Windows
> Update site I mentioned earlier, I suggest NOT getting their hardware
> drivers - no matter how tempting.
> Have I mentioned that Microsoft has some stuff to help secure your
> available to the end-user for free? This seems as good of a time as any.
> They have a CD you can order (it's free) that contain all of the Windows
> patches through October 2003 and some trial products as well that they
> released in February 2004. Yeah - it's a little behind now, but it's
> than nothing (and used in coordination with the information in this post,
> well worth the purchase price..)
> Order the Windows Security Update CD
> They also have a bunch of suggestions, some similar to these, on how to
> better protect your Windows system:
> Protect your PC
> Let's say you are up-to-date on the OS (operating system) and you have
> Windows XP.. You should at least turn on the built in firewall. That
> do a lot to "hide" you from the random bad things flying around the
> Internet. Things like Sasser/Blaster enjoy just sitting out there in
> Cyberspace looking for an unprotected Windows Operating System and jumping
> on it, doing great damage in the process and then using that Unprotected
> to continue its dirty work of infecting others. If you have the Windows
> ICF turned on - default configuration - then they cannot see you! Think
> it as Internet Stealth Mode at this point. It has other advantages, like
> actually locking the doors you didn't even (likely) know you had. Doing
> this is simple, the instructions you need to use your built in Windows XP
> firewall can be found here:
> If you read through that and look through the pages that are linked from
> at the bottom of that page - I think you should have a firm grasp on the
> basics of the Windows XP Firewall as it is today. One thing to note RIGHT
> NOW - if you have AOL, you cannot use this nice firewall that came with
> your system. Thank AOL, not Microsoft. You HAVE to configure another
> one.. So we continue with our session on Firewalls...
> But let's say you DON'T have Windows XP - you have some other OS like
> Windows 95, 98, 98SE, ME, NT, 2000. Well, you don't have the nifty built
> firewall. My suggestion - upgrade. My next suggestion - look through
> options. There are lots of free and pay firewalls out there for home
> Yes - you will have to decide on your own which to get. Yes, you will
> to learn (oh no!) to use these firewalls and configure them so they don't
> interfere with what you want to do while continuing to provide the
> you desire. It's just like anything else you want to protect - you have
> do something to protect it. Here are some suggested applications. A lot
> people tout "ZoneAlarm" as being the best alternative to just using the
> Windows XP ICF, but truthfully - any of these alternatives are much better
> than the Windows XP ICF at what they do - because that is ALL they do.
> ZoneAlarm (Free and up)
> Kerio Personal Firewall (KPF) (Free and up)
> Outpost Firewall from Agnitum (Free and up)
> Sygate Personal Firewall (Free and up)
> Symantec's Norton Personal Firewall (~$25 and up)
> BlackICE PC Protection ($39.95 and up)
> Tiny Personal Firewall (~$49.00 and up)
> That list is not complete, but they are good firewall options, every one
> them. Visit the web pages, read up, ask around if you like - make a
> decision and go with some firewall, any firewall. Also, maintain it.
> Sometimes new holes are discovered in even the best of these products and
> patches are released from the company to remedy this problem. However, if
> you don't get the patches (check the manufacturer web page on occasion),
> then you may never know you have the problem and/or are being used through
> this weakness. Also, don't stack these things. Running more than one
> firewall will not make you safer - it would likely (in fact) negate some
> protection you gleamed from one or the other firewalls you ran together.
> ANTIVIRUS SOFTWARE
> That's not all. That's one facet of a secure PC, but firewalls don't do
> everything. I saw one person posting on a newsgroup that "they had
> never had a virus and they never run any anti-virus software." Yep - I
> to believe that way too - viruses were something everyone else seemed to
> get, were they just stupid? And for the average joe-user who is careful,
> uses their one-three family computers carefully, never opening unknown
> attachments, always visiting the same family safe web sites, never
> installing anything that did not come with their computer - maybe, just
> maybe they will never witness a virus. I, however, am a Network Systems
> Administrator. I see that AntiVirus software is an absolute necessity
> how most people see their computer as a toy/tool and not something
> they should have to maintain and upkeep. After all, they were invented to
> make life easier, right - not add another task to your day. You
> can be as careful as you want - will the next person be as careful? Will
> someone send you unknowingly the email that erases all the pictures of
> child/childhood? Possibly - why take the chance? ALWAYS RUN ANTIVIRUS
> SOFTWARE and KEEP IT UP TO DATE! Antivirus software comes in so many
> flavors, it's like walking into a Jelly Belly store - which one tastes
> what?! Well, here are a few choices for you. Some of these are free
> that nice?) and some are not. Is one better than the other - MAYBE.
> Symantec (Norton) AntiVirus (~$11 and up)
> Kaspersky Anti-Virus (~$49.95 and up)
> Panda Antivirus Titanium (~$39.95 and up)
> (Free Online Scanner: http://www.pandasoftware.com/activescan/)
> AVG 6.0 Anti-Virus System (Free and up)
> McAfee VirusScan (~$11 and up)
> AntiVir (Free and up)
> avast! 4 (Free and up)
> Trend Micro (~$49.95 and up)
> (Free Online Scanner:
> RAV AntiVirus Online Virus Scan (Free!)
> Did I mention you have to not only install this software, but also keep it
> updated? You do. Some of them (most) have automatic services to help you
> do this - I mean, it's not your job to keep up with the half-dozen or more
> new threats that come out daily, is it? Be sure to keep whichever one you
> choose up to date!
> So you must be thinking that the above two things got your back now - you
> are covered, safe and secure in your little fox hole. Wrong! There are
> more bad guys out there. There are annoyances out there you can get
> trying. Your normal web surfing, maybe a wrong click on a web page, maybe
> just a momentary lack of judgment by installing some software packages
> without doing the research.. And all of a sudden your screen starts
> up with advertisements or your Internet seems much slower or your home
> won't stay what you set it and goes someplace unfamiliar to you. This is
> spyware. There are a whole SLEW of software packages out there to get rid
> of this crud and help prevent reinfection. Some of the products already
> mentioned might even have branched out into this arena. However, there
> a few applications that seem to be the best at what they do, which is
> eradicating and immunizing your system from this crap. Strangely, the
> products I have found in this category ARE generally free. That is a
> I like. I make donations to some of them, they deserve it!
> Two side-notes: Never think one of these can do the whole job.
> Try the first 5 before coming back and saying "That did not work!"
> Also, you can always visit:
> For more updated information.
> Spybot Search and Destroy (Free!)
> Lavasoft AdAware (Free and up)
> CWSShredder (Free!)
> Hijack This! (Free)
> ( Tutorial: http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/htlogtutorial.html )
> SpywareBlaster (Free!)
> IE-SPYAD (Free!)
> ToolbarCop (Free!)
> Bazooka Adware and Spyware Scanner (Free!)
> Browser Security Tests
> The Cleaner (49.95 and up)
> That will clean up your machine of the spyware, given that you download
> install several of them, update them regularly and scan with them when you
> update. Some (like SpywareBlaster and SpyBot Search and Destroy) have
> immunization features that will help you prevent your PC from being
> infected. Use these features!
> Unfortunately, although that will lessen your popups on the Internet/while
> you are online, it won't eliminate them. I have looked at a lot of
> seen a lot of them used in production with people who seem to attract
> like a plague, and I only have one suggestion that end up serving double
> duty (search engine and popup stopper in one):
> The Google Toolbar (Free!)
> Yeah - it adds a bar to your Internet Explorer - but its a useful one.
> can search from there anytime with one of the best search engines on the
> planet (IMO.) And the fact it stops most popups - wow - BONUS! If you
> don't like that suggestion, then I am just going to say you go to
> www.google.com and search for other options.
> One more suggestion, although I will suggest this in a way later, is to
> disable your Windows Messenger service. This service is not used
> (if at all) by the normal home user and in cooperation with a good
> is generally unnecessary. Microsoft has instructions on how to do this
> Windows XP here:
> SPAM EMAIL/JUNK MAIL
> This one can get annoying, just like the rest. You get 50 emails in one
> sitting and 2 of them you wanted. NICE! (Not.) What can you do? Well,
> although there are services out there to help you, some email
> servers/services that actually do lower your spam with features built into
> their servers - I still like the methods that let you be the end-decision
> maker on what is spam and what isn't. If these things worked perfectly,
> wouldn't need people and then there would be no spam anyway - vicious
> circle, eh? Anyway - I have two products to suggest to you, look at them
> and see if either of them suite your needs. Again, if they don't, Google
> free and available for your perusal.
> SpamBayes (Free!)
> Spamihilator (Free!)
> As I said, those are not your only options, but are reliable ones I have
> seen function for hundreds+ people.
> DISABLE (Set to Manual) UNUSED SERVICE/STARTUP APPS
> I might get arguments on putting this one here, but it's my spill. There
> lots of services on your PC that are probably turned on by default you
> use. Why have them on? Check out these web pages to see what all of the
> services you might find on your computer are and set them according to
> personal needs. Be CAREFUL what you set to manual, and take heed and
> down as you change things! Also, don't expect a large performance
> or anything - especially on todays 2+ GHz machines, however - I look at
> service you set to manual as one less service you have to worry about
> someone exploiting. A year ago, I would have thought the Windows
> service to be pretty safe, now I recommend (with addition of a firewall)
> that most home users disable it! Yeah - this is another one you have to
> work for, but your computer may speed up and/or be more secure because you
> took the time. And if you document what you do as you do it, next time,
> goes MUCH faster! (or if you have to go back and re-enable things..)
> Task List Programs
> Black Viper's Service List and Opinions (XP)
> Processes in Windows NT/2000/XP
> There are also applications that AREN'T services that startup when you
> up the computer/logon. One of the better description on how to handle
> I have found here:
> That's it. A small booklet on how to keep your computer secure, clean of
> scum and more user friendly. I am SURE I missed something, almost as I am
> sure you won't read all of it (anyone for that matter.) However, I also
> know that someone who followed all of the advice above would also have
> problems with their PC, less problems with viruses, less problems with
> fewer problems with spyware and better performance than someone who
> Hope it helps.
> <- Shenan ->
> The information is provided "as is", with no guarantees of
> completeness, accuracy or timeliness, and without warranties of any
> kind, express or implied. In other words, read up before you take any
> advice - you are the one ultimately responsible for your actions.