Re: antivirus software

From: Jupiter Jones [MVP] (jones_jupiter_at_hotnomail.com)
Date: 07/15/04 

Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 20:13:15 -0600

Bruce;
Your first paragraph does not even apply in this situation.
We are not referring to surfing the internet.
We are referring to a trusted site, Microsoft.com.

I never even suggested disabling the firewall.
Your entire second paragraph assumes no firewall.
If they do not have a firewall, they have worse things to worry about
than what may happen because of the AV being disabled.
Especially since they are getting updates and may not have an update
that protects against a particular vulnerability.
I also have seen many catch Blaster, Sasser etc immediately after a
reload.
Never because lack of AV.
Always because of lack of properly configured firewall or appropriate
patches.
Since updates what is wanted and not currently installed, that leaves
the protection to the firewall.

If AV is disabled before installing updates, then enabled after
updating, nothing you said applies.

You are safe to download from a trusted site such as Microsoft.com
with AV disabled.
However some people download the patches manually and check for
viruses.
Then they disconnect from the network, disable AV before installing
updates.
As I stated before, I have seen far to many issues, many in the
Windows Update newsgroup, where the AV was the cause of installation
issues. 

-- 
Jupiter Jones  [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/
"Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@nospamcableone.net> wrote in message
news:eft4F5gaEHA.3352@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Greetings --
>
>   I should have thought that it was obvious.  Given today's
> widely-publicized and well-known hostile Internet environment, only
a
> fool or a masochist would go on-line without _both_ a firewall and
> antivirus protection.  People really shouldn't need to be told to
use
> a firewall or an antivirus application, no more than they should
need
> to be told not to stick their hands into an open flame.
>
>     How many posts have we seen by people who got hit by Blaster,
> Welchia, or Sasser the very first time they connected to the
Internet?
> There are 3 preventative measures they could have used: a firewall,
a
> good antivirus application, and all patches installed.  Given the
fact
> that almost no-one thinks to turn on a firewall first, they're left
at
> the mercy of their antivirus software (which may well detect and
block
> virus-like behavior even if it doesn't have the very latest
> definitions), or the very patches that they're trying to download
and
> therefore have not yet installed.  Since I have _never_ seen an
> antivirus application cause a problem during the downloading and
> installation of hotfixes (or service packs, for that matter), and
> since I've provided client support on networks where such patches
(and
> even applications, on occasion) are pushed out via SMS or ZenWorks
to
> hundreds of machines on a regular basis, I can't see any point in
> removing a layer of protection just because something might
> theoretically go wrong.
>
>
> Bruce Chambers
> -- 
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>
> You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on
> having both at once. - RAH
>
>
> "Jupiter Jones [MVP]" <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote in message
> news:%239l0zgcaEHA.3508@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > Your lack of explanation as to why you say no stands high and
alone.
> > Why?
> >
> > -- 
> > Jupiter Jones  [MVP]
> > http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/
> >
> >
>
>

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