Re: How to work with unprivileged user
From: Daniel (ldima24_at_hotmail.com)
Date: 06/30/04
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Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 09:57:40 +0300
Daniel wrote:
> I have WinXP professional and want to work with unprivileged user.
> The question is how do I install programs for that user. If I use
> "Run As" to run installation as Administrator or just install from
> Administrator account, some programs are installed for Administrator
> only. What I do now when I want to install some program for
> unprivileged user is I make that user member of Administrators,
> login and install program, then I remove the user from
> Administrators group. Is there an easier way??
Shenan Stanley wrote:
> Most of the time what you are seeing is just startr menu/desktop
> items not being created when you install as an administrator. Don't
> make someone an administrator just for an installation. Using "Run
> As" or logging in as an administrator usually gets the application
> installed fine.. You then need to manually copy/move the shortcuts
> to the application to the appropriate folders so the user(s) can
> see/use it. (All Users is usually a fine choice.)
>
> There will be programs that require some "fiddling" to get them to
> work with NORMAL user accounts.. Such as file/directory permissions
> - perhaps opening up as few as a single file to read/write by
> "users" - sometimes even registry values must be given special
> permissions to allow a "user" to run them.
>
> It's the wonderful world of the system admin.. Give as little as is
> needed to do the job while maintaining productivity - otherwise they
> may be able to do too much and ruin all your work anyway..
Daniel wrote:
> What about registry entries that some programs add to
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER? If I run installation as Administrator those
> entries will be added to HKEY_CURRENT_USER of Administrator only....
>
> Thank you!
Shenan Stanley wrote:
> Should be fine and still there... What people seem to miss with
> HKEY_Current_User is that there are only parts of it replaced by the users
> NTUSER.DAT file when those entries are loaded. Some entries are
cross-user.
>
> If your applications aren't just unbelievably archaic, they will either
> write in one of those areas that won't be overwritten OR they will
recreate
> what they need as the user runs it the first time in their registry
> settings.
>
> --
> <- Shenan ->
> --
> The information is provided "as is", with no guarantees of
> completeness, accuracy or timeliness, and without warranties of any
> kind, express or implied. In other words, read up before you take any
> advice - you are the one ultimately responsible for your actions.
>
It seems like I have such an "unbelievably archaic" programs, although they
are not archaic, they behave like. I'm talking about MyIE2 and AI RoboForm.
I just can't manage make them working in MultiUser environment. RoboForm
won't run for user that didn't install it. It says I must reinstall it.
After installing it for each user that will use it (temporary giving
administrative privileges for each user. Is there another way?) it seems to
work, but then it's toolbar sometimes disappears.
MyIE2 saves some user specific info in it's Program Files folder and not in
user's Application Data folder, so Last Visited Pages of specific user got
messed up with another user. And if I use Fast User Switching and run MyIE
stimulatingly for two users it sometimes just hangs.
I'm sure there are more programs that are not designed to run in MultiUser
environment. I'm not sure if it's possible to trick them to work
correctly... I was trying to find some generic guide or something alike, but
couldn't find anything... It seems that most home users just work as
administrators to avoid those problems.
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