Re: Windows XP Service Pack 2

From: Will Denny (willdenny_at_mvps.org)
Date: 05/04/04 

Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 17:42:13 +0100

I posted the link to SP2 NGs, but... 

-- 
Will Denny
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
"Roger Abell [MVP]" <mvpNoSpam@asu.edu> wrote in message
news:OL0ZpDfMEHA.3016@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
| You should be posting SP 2 feedback to the SP 2 newsgroups.
|
| Each point of concern you have mentioned is taken into account
| in the planned SP 2 release.  There are updates to adm files for
| control of the autoupdate and firewall features in SP 2.  You will
| be able to continue use of your Sus.  Once Wus releases you
| will have improved control and reporting of update delivery also.
|
| When you are editing a GPO you must pay attention to the policy
| annotations that state to what client OS version the policy is
| applicable.  All W2k policies work everywhere, but there are XP
| policies that do not work (nor do harm) on Wk2, and also W2k3
| policies that do not work (nor do harm) on W2k or XP.
|
| It sounds to me like you should get comfortable with using GPO
| as this is the vehicle for controlling XP SP 2 features in a corp
| world.  If you have not yet, you should start using GPMC also.
|
| -- 
| Roger Abell
| Microsoft MVP (Windows Server System: Security)
| MCDBA,  MCSE W2k3+W2k+Nt4
| "Gary van Heerden" <gheerden@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| news:u%23utQReMEHA.628@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
| > Let me start by saying that I totally support what you guys are doing,
but
| > I
| > have to ask if you have given proper consideration to what the effects
are
| > going to be for large corporate environments...
| >
| > Here in Africa bandwidth comes at a huge premium, and we simply can't
| > afford
| > the amounts of bandwidth that you guys can, with a network of 10,000
| > users,
| > it is very very expensive.
| >
| >
| >
| > By turning on auto update, or enforcing the decision to do this, you are
| > directly causing systems to go and be updated individually; this now
means
| > that I have 10, 000 clients connecting to Windows update and trying to
| > download the latest patch, lets use MS04 -011 which is 6.5 Meg, and the
| > problem becomes unmanageable, my ISA server will cache the patch which
| > prevents it from traversing the Internet link, but it must now traverse
my
| > WAN 9000 times.
| >
| >
| >
| > We currently use SUS very effectively, and our WAN traffic is minimal
due
| > to
| > this apart from the traveling users that now pull their updates across
the
| > WAN, DFS does not solve this problem for me, and if it can help I would
| > like
| > to know how.
| >
| >
| >
| > I am assuming that I can control this via GPO's and that I can override
| > the
| > setting that the user chooses,  however I have been burnt by GPO's
| > already,
| > and have noticed that in my environment, Windows 2000 AD 2000 that many
| > GPO
| > settings that are available with tools like GPMC which are 2003 tools
| > settings made have no effect.
| >
| >
| >
| > I therefore have to ask if I make these GPO changes if they will
actually
| > take effect on the XP desktops.
| >
| >
| >
| > The next big concern I have is on the XP SP2 Firewall.
| >
| > As stated above, I have no control over this with my 2000 GPO's and by
| > turning on the firewall in XP SP2 you are going to prevent management
| > systems like SMS from connecting to these devices that we are trying to
| > manage. I will be unable to even ping the device because by default ICMP
| > is
| > turned off.
| >
| > I will be unable to remotely manage these devices, and things like file
| > sharing, (which I consider a pain) will stop working, I am now going to
be
| > inundated with helpdesk calls regarding allowing certain traffic types
and
| > users are probably going to simply click the top option (because they
| > don't
| > understand) which turns the rule off.
| >
| >
| >
| > Very simply put, what tools are you putting at my disposal to manage
this
| > environment, and protecting the users from themselves, as well as
helping
| > me
| > protect my WAN and the associated traffic level increases I am going to
| > see.???
| >
| >
| >
| > Thanks
| >
| > Gary
| >
| >
|
|

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