Re: new motherboard--must buy new copy of XP?!!
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Date: 03/01/04
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Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 13:23:48 GMT
My PC came with Win 98SE. I bought the WinXpPro upgrade.
Can I change Motherboards and CPU? I think I would have to call MSFT and
reregister?
"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote in message
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> Jim;
> You can call Microsoft all you want.
> You did not purchase Windows from Microsoft.
> You purchased OEM from Emachines.
> Emachines chose (not Microsoft) how to comply with licensing.
> Emachines chose the cheapest option and then passed the savings on to
> you.
> Why else did you buy Emachine?
>
> Think of OEM as being manufactured, sold and supported by the seller
> and Microsoft not having a part of it.
> You pay far less for your OEM Windows than I did for my retail, one of
> the MANY reasons OEM is cheaper.
>
> Whether you like the licensing terms is not relevant.
> You do not own Windows to use as you see fit.
> You own a conditional license to use Windows according to the EULA you
> agreed.
> Read the EULA for details.
>
> --
> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/
>
>
> "Jim" <jamest571@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:B4EC1FB6-6843-4C32-9CF6-61E4123FD11C@microsoft.com...
> > Hi!
> >
> > My name is Jim and I live in Colorado Springs, CO. Recently I
> bought a new motherboard to upgrade my, long-in-the-tooth, e-machine
> computer. I did consider resealing Windows XP before changing the
> board but I decided not to since my copy of XP is the upgrade version
> (at least I assume it is, it was loaded on to the system by the oem,
> of course) and I thought this could lead to trouble. Besides, I felt
> I could always explore that option latter if needed.
> >
> > I did expect the system to protest and perhaps make me call
> Microsoft for a code but what happened instead came as a complete
> surprise. After changing the motherboard I first just tried to reboot
> the computer into the safe mode however Windows XP refused to do this.
> So I inserted the e-machine recovery disk into the CD-ROM player. I
> was surprised to see the exact same message; something to the affect
> that Windows could not boot into the safe mode and this problem could
> be the result of hardware issues caused by hardware issues.
> >
> > Well, I first called e-machine support and was told that since I did
> not send the computer to them to put in a new e-machine motherboard (I
> doubt if this is even an option on my system) that they could not
> offer me any support. I explained that all I wanted was a way to get
> to the Windows XP files [I tried to boot directly from the recovery
> disk, this works but you really have no where to go from this point.
> I first booted from the recovery disk and then tried to install Win 98
> from a CD-ROM but received the dreaded "incorrect COMMAND.COM"
> message.]
> >
> > I then called Microsoft and talked to a pleasant support specialist
> who gave me the number to get media copies. I have not called them
> yet (I work nights and they are closed by time I get home) but I will
> very soon of course. However I am very concerned that they will say
> that they cannot send me a copy of Windows XP since I DO have my copy
> from e-machine.
> >
> > You know I am a big fan of Microsoft. The people who argue that
> Microsoft has monopoly power in some of the market segments that they
> are in never bring up one very salient point. Microsoft makes GREAT
> products! This being said I have never cared for some of their
> policies concerning how many copies of the operating system an
> individual user (not a company or organized group of some kind but
> just an ordinary individual) has to buy. If I own five computers I
> still believe I should only have to buy one copy of the operating
> system, after all I cannot use all five computers at once. This goes
> hand in glove with my belief that Microsoft should go a little easier
> on the hobbyist user (who some might call a "power" user) since from
> the ranks of these hobbyists often emerge the new ideas that drive the
> industry. Also the hobbyist user will spend much more money on both
> hardware and software than just an ordinary user---why not give them a
> break?
> >
> > Another aspect of this policy that disturbs me (especially with the
> strong enforcement mechanism built-in to Windows XP) is that it is a
> policy that basically represents a death sentence for the white-box
> computing business (what I mean by "white box industry" is all of the
> small computer stores that you see in strip-malls etc.). After all
> the logic of using components is declining in the face of ever falling
> PC prices and if you are going to be forced to buy a new operating
> system just because you changed the mother board in your computer
> obviously this is going to be an unworkable situation very rapidly.
> With a low end computer the price of the operating system alone can
> represent 20-25% of the cost.
> >
> > But getting back to the issue at hand, I just want to know if other
> people have had the same issue to contend with and what kind of
> outcome did they experience. Also do you agree with my premise that
> since I did buy Windows XP when I purchased my e-machine computer that
> I am entitled to have new copies of the disks (separate from what is
> locked up in my e-machine recovery disks) just as if I had bought a
> copy in the store and for some reason I needed some new media? I
> would also like to hear from anyone who disagrees with this premise.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Jim
> >
> > Please CC to jamest571@yahoo.com
> >
>
>
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