Re: xp security vulnerabilities?

From: John (John_at_somewhere.com)
Date: 02/21/04 

Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 16:20:07 GMT

In article <ur7CzvG#DHA.2484@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl>, bofh@mvps.org
says...
>
> > 3. Does Steve Gibson know what he's talking about or not?
>
> Ask 10 people that question and you might get 10 different answers. My
> Opinion: He has one or two facts but he buries them in BS and hyperbole. His
> site is helpful to beginners perhaps but I don't know anyone in the security
> industry who takes him very seriously.
>
> Ask yourself this question - Steve went on about how Raw Sockets in XP would
> cause the Internet to explode as soon as XP was released; How old is XP? And
> if you can read this reply, did the Internet blow up or not?
>

Well, Steve Gibson doesn't need me to defend him so I won't. I think
his point about the raw sockets issue was that it gave the bad guys the
capability to launch *untraceable* attacks on the web. That seems to be
true don't you think? I haven't heard any reports about any of these
guys being located and arrested anyway. Without arrests and penalties
you have chaos, no?

As far as whether the web has "blown up" or not - lots of people would
argue that it is in the process of happening now. You shouldn't need a
properly configured firewall, up to date virus definitions and a direct
line to windowsupdate.com to be able access the web *for a few minutes*
without getting your system destroyed.

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