Re: "Read-only" Folders

From: Drew Cooper [MSFT] (dcoop_at_online.microsoft.com)
Date: 02/06/04


Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 18:38:38 -0800

Ah - right! It could be that OE uses "folder" to mean something other than
a directory.

If the permissions and attributes look ok and there's nobody with an open
handle to the file, I'm stumped. Maybe someone else has a clue. One of the
"outlookexpress" newsgroups might know something OE-specific.

-- 
Drew Cooper [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
<anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:ac9f01c3ec2a$97ce5810$a301280a@phx.gbl...
> The saga continues.  Now, I'm not too sure that the issue
> is the Read-only folder.  To try another angle, I copied
> one mail folder (.dbx) from my old PC on to a floppy, put
> it in my new PC, and tried to import that one mail folder
> into OE.  I got the same message -- "The mail folder could
> not be opened. If another application is using the file,
> please close it and try again."  The properties on
> the .dbx folder all look fine.  I'm beginning to think
> there's a problem with OE on my new PC.  Maybe the message
> has not been referring to the parent folder that contained
> all my OE mail folders (.dbx), BUT to the mail folders
> themselves.  The attributes on those all look fine?!?!?
> I'm baffled, and a bit frustrated.
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Oh - sorry about that.  It's sometimes hard for me to
> tell when my words
> >will seem like jargon and when they'll seem
> condescending.  I'll un-geek-ify
> >things a bit . ..
> >
> >By "tri-state with checkbox" I meant that the checkbox
> actually has 3
> >different states instead of the 2 you would normally
> expect: 1)checked and
> >gray, 2)unchecked, and 3)checked.  It's not very
> intuitive.  The link that
> >Roger posted probably explains this better than I could.
> >
> >By "'attrib' in the cmdline" I meant:
> >- Click on "Start".
> >- Go to "Run" and click on it.
> >- In the textbox next to "Open:" type "cmd" and hit
> <Enter>.
> >That new window that just opened is what I meant
> by "cmdline".  You can list
> >files and subdirectories using the "dir" command,
> navigate throughout your
> >directory structure with the "cd" command, and using
> the "attrib" command
> >you can view and set the attributes on files and
> directories.  For almost
> >all commands you would want to use, " /?" will show you
> what parameters the
> >tool takes, syntax, etc.  The "attrib" command will
> always tell you what
> >attributes are set on a file and doesn't try to do any of
> that confusing (to
> >me) tri-state stuff.
> >(In case Roger reads this: cmd.exe is not DOS.  It's only
> DOS-flavored.
> >There's a common myth that Windows XP has DOS somewhere
> under the covers.
> >Not true.)
> >
> >
> >Want to see what process has an open handle to the
> directory?  You might
> >want to download Process Explorer from sysinternals.com.
> It's a free UI
> >tool that, among other things, shows you which processes
> have which files
> >open.  It's kinda like Task Manager on steroids.
> >-- 
> >Drew Cooper [MSFT]
> >This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
> confers no rights.
> >
> >
> >"John" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message
> >news:a38701c3eb8c$3e9aff80$a001280a@phx.gbl...
> >> Hi Drew,
> >>
> >> Thanks for responding to my inquiry in the MS Community
> >> Newsgroup.  I have to admit that I'm not as "computer
> >> literate" as you are.  Not sure I understand what you
> >> mean by "show a tri-state with the checkbox", or how to
> >> confirm "attrib" in the cmdline.  I tried re-booting and
> >> importing the OE files without opening Windows Explorer
> >> (in case Explorer was somehow "grabbing" the folder),
> and
> >> still get the error: "The mail folder could not be
> >> opened. If another application is using the file, please
> >> close it and try again."  The directory containing the
> >> mail files is located in the Shared Documents directory.
> >>
> >> I am also confused as to why EVERY folder in Windows
> >> Explorer has the Read-only attribute set (even new
> >> folders I create) and I cannot seem to un-set that
> >> attribute.  It hasn't seemed to affect anything else,
> >> although I've only had this new PC up and running for a
> >> few days.
> >>
> >> Any other help/explanation you have to offer would be
> >> welcome.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> John
> >>
> >>
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >It's not really read-only.  The UI is trying to show a
> >> tri-state with the
> >> >checkbox.  And the UI never actually sets the r/o bit
> on
> >> a directory anyway.
> >> >("attrib" on the cmdline can confirm this.)
> >> >
> >> >I don't know what's using the directory that OE wants
> to
> >> use, but if you
> >> >have it open on your desktop, explorer is one culprit.
> >> >-- 
> >> >Drew Cooper [MSFT]
> >> >This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,
> and
> >> confers no rights.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >"John" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> >> message
> >> >news:9c7701c3eac2$c9b6a0d0$a401280a@phx.gbl...
> >> >> I am moving my Outlook folders (.dbx) from my old
> >> >> Windows98 PC to my new XP Home Edition PC.  All the
> >> files
> >> >> are successfully moved, but when I try to Import them
> >> >> into Outlook, I get the message that the folder with
> >> the
> >> >> OE files cannot be opened because it may be in use by
> >> >> another application.  When I checked the properties
> of
> >> >> the folder, the attributes say the folder is Read-
> only.
> >> >> None of the files in the folder are Read-only.  When
> I
> >> >> try to un-set the Read-only attribute, it appears to
> >> let
> >> >> me do it, but whe I check it again, it's still read
> >> only.
> >> >> In poking around, it appears that ALL the folders are
> >> >> Read-only. The user account I'm using is "Computer
> >> >> Administrator". Why are all the folders Read-only and
> >> why
> >> >> can't I change or even create a folder that is not? I
> >> >> also tried dragging the folder into the Shared
> >> Documents
> >> >> folder, but no luck.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >.
> >> >
> >
> >
> >.
> >


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