Re: crypt32

From: Wesley Vogel (123WVogel955_at_comcast.net)
Date: 02/03/04


Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2004 03:57:31 GMT

Drew;

<LOL>
The thing is, I haven't signed anything.
When I bought Enron stock it was good.

Seriously.
The only enabled purpose for VeriSign Time Stamping CA is time stamping.
I see that as an oxymoron. An expired certificate being used for time
stamping.
I'm sorry but I see much humor here.
I guess since I have Update Root Certificates enabled I have to live with
what it does.

[[keep it around for verifying past uses]] makes sense to me.

Thank you for your replies. I reckon I should read more about
Certificates in MMC Help. :o)

Wes

In news:ONF7q7f6DHA.2560@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl,
Drew Cooper [MSFT] <dcoop@online.microsoft.com> hunted and pecked:
> Try this hypothetical scenario:
> - Currently I have a signing cert (and priv key). The cert is good. The
> chain is good. Nothing expired.
> - I sign file foo.exe with it and timestamp the file for good measure.
> - 2 years from now one of the certs in the chain expires. Chaining will
> fail.
>
> Should we still consider the signature good? We know that it was good
> when I signed foo.exe, so if we trusted the cert chain then, we trust
> that I was the one who actually signed foo.exe.
>
> Expiration *could* mean you don't trust anything that cert was used for.
> Or it could mean "don't use that cert for any new operations, but keep it
> around for verifying past uses".
>
> I'm going to stop now before I confuse myself.
> --
> Drew Cooper [MSFT]
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> rights.
>
>
> "Wesley Vogel" <123WVogel955@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:udCTb.210314$xy6.1081857@attbi_s02...
> > Drew;
> > Thank you for the reply.
> >
> > I don't understand. Before I delete the cert, it says it's
> > expired. Even if I couldn't figure out how a calendar
> > works. :o)
> >
> > If my drivers license expires I get a new
> > one and throw the expired one a way.
> > Same with food packages.
> >
> > If I want to keep an expired certificate why
> > wouldn't it be kept in .............
> >
> > Never mind. I see now that it's in the Untrusted Certificates\
> > Certificates folder.
> >
> > Now that makes sense.
> >
> >
> > Wes
> >
> > In news:Oo5Wwke6DHA.3804@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl,
> > Drew Cooper [MSFT] <dcoop@online.microsoft.com> hunted and pecked:
> > > That cert expired, but some of the certs issued from that root are
> > > probably still good. And we need the root cert to verify their
> > > chains. Actually even if it were revoked there could be circumstances
> > > in which we'd want to keep the cert around.
> > > --
> > > Drew Cooper [MSFT]
> > > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> > > rights.
> > >
> > >
> > > "Wesley Vogel" <123WVogel955@comcast.net> wrote in message
> > > news:J2FSb.147356$sv6.821849@attbi_s52...
> > > > Howdy;
> > > >
> > > > Event Viewer.
> > > > =====================
> > > > Event Type: Information
> > > > Event Source: crypt32
> > > > Event Category: None
> > > > Event ID: 7
> > > > Date: 1/30/2004
> > > > Time: 4:31:55 PM
> > > > User: N/A
> > > > Computer: MYPENTIUM450
> > > > Description:
> > > > Successful auto update retrieval of third-party root list sequence
> > > > number from:
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
<http://www.download.windowsupdate.com/msdownload/update/v3/static/trustedr/
> > > > en/authrootseq.txt>
> > > >
> > > > For more information, see Help and Support Center at
> > > > http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
> > > > =====================
> > > > Event Type: Information
> > > > Event Source: crypt32
> > > > Event Category: None
> > > > Event ID: 2
> > > > Date: 1/30/2004
> > > > Time: 4:31:55 PM
> > > > User: N/A
> > > > Computer: MYPENTIUM450
> > > > Description:
> > > > Successful auto update retrieval of third-party root list cab from:
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
<http://www.download.windowsupdate.com/msdownload/update/v3/static/trustedr/
> > > > en/authrootstl.cab>
> > > >
> > > > For more information, see Help and Support Center at
> > > > http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
> > > > =======================
> > > > Event Type: Information
> > > > Event Source: crypt32
> > > > Event Category: None
> > > > Event ID: 1
> > > > Date: 1/30/2004
> > > > Time: 4:31:55 PM
> > > > User: N/A
> > > > Computer: MYPENTIUM450
> > > > Description:
> > > > Successful auto update of third-party root certificate:: Subject:
> > > > <OU="NO LIABILITY ACCEPTED, (c)97 VeriSign, Inc.", OU=VeriSign Time
> > > > Stamping Service Root, OU="VeriSign, Inc.", O=VeriSign Trust
> > > > Network> Sha1 thumbprint: <18F7C1FCC3090203FD5BAA2F861A754976C8DD25>
> > > >
> > > > For more information, see Help and Support Center at
> > > > http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
> > > > =================================
> > > >
> > > > I keep deleteing this expired Certificate and Cryptographic Services
> > > > keeps downloading it again. I tried to move it to the Untrusted
> > > > Certificates folder in Console1 | Certificates | but was unable to.
> > > >
> > > > The Expired Certificate is:
> > > >
> > > > VeriSign Time Stamping CA OU = NO LIABILITY ACCEPTED, (c)97
> > > > VeriSign, Inc. OU = VeriSign Time Stamping Service Root
> > > > OU = VeriSign, Inc.
> > > > O = VeriSign Trust Network
> > > > Valid to: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 4:59:59 PM
> > > >
> > > > This thing expired three weeks ago. What's the deal?? How come it
> > > > keeps coming back like a bad penny? Any insight would be
> > > > appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > Wes



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