Re: ICF and PPPoE DSL connection

From: Wesley Vogel (123WVogel955_at_comcast.net)
Date: 01/13/04


Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 03:51:20 GMT

Hi Larry;
<LOL>
Thanks for the replies.
I was just curious what you would have to say.
"Hardware firewall" seem to be the key words here.
Strong Heart dog food? :o)

Wes

In news:OfEYMCY2DHA.2572@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl,
Larry Samuels <larry@mvps.org> hunted and pecked:
> Hi Wesley,
>
> Hardware firewall (NAT router) and ICF 2 .
> I am running XP SP2 as part of the beta.
>
> My main server runs the original ICF on the WS2K3 SP1 beta.
>
> Yes--I eat my own dogfood <G> Any decent network admin views a compromised
> machine as untrustworthy and reloads it if it is compromised. An outbound
> firewall serves no purpose other than as an alert the machine is suspect and
> should be wiped.
>
> This view is not popular among home users, mainly because few maintain
> regular backups so they can recover easily.
>
> --
> Larry Samuels MS-MVP (Windows-Shell/User)
> Associate Expert
> Unofficial FAQ for Windows Server 2003 at
> http://home.earthlink.net/~larrysamuels/WS2003FAQ.htm
> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> "Wesley Vogel" <123WVogel955@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:M2HMb.37404$I06.240758@attbi_s01...
> > Hello Larry;
> > What are you using for a firewall?
> >
> > Wes
> >
> > In news:OUHL1wW2DHA.2060@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl,
> > Larry Samuels <larry@mvps.org> hunted and pecked:
> > > As Marc stated, ICF will protect your pc as well as any firewall out
> > > there---from incoming attacks. It does nothing to prevent malware you
> > > have
> > > enabled on your pc from making outgoing connections.
> > >
> > > By that point it doesn't matter--if the malware is present and trying to
> > > call out, your pc no longer belongs to you anyway.
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Larry Samuels MS-MVP (Windows-Shell/User)
> > > Associate Expert
> > > Unofficial FAQ for Windows Server 2003 at
> > > http://home.earthlink.net/~larrysamuels/WS2003FAQ.htm
> > > Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> > >
> > > "Wesley Vogel" <123WVogel955@comcast.net> wrote in message
> > > news:SZFMb.34546$5V2.52137@attbi_s53...
> > > > Marc;
> > > > You use what you want. :o) I'm using Zone Alarm (Free version).
> > > > Expert Zone columnist Tony Northrup is an Internet engineer, a
> > > > part-time
> > > > photographer, and author of dozens of books and articles. He writes to
> > > > help
> > > > people safely use the Internet to communicate, share, and learn.
> > > >
> > > > From Tony Northrup:
> > > > [ICF is designed to provide basic intrusion prevention, but doesn't
> > > > include the
> > > > rich features of a third-party firewall application. Most third-party
> > > > firewalls
> > > > protect you from software that may violate your privacy or allow an
> > > > attacker to
> > > > misuse your computer-features not found in ICF.]
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Hope this helps. Let us know.
> > > > Wes
> > > >
> > > > In news:uWkqtqV2DHA.536@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl,
> > > > Marc Reynolds [MSFT] <marcrey@online.microsoft.com> hunted and pecked:
> > > > > "MS's XP firewall isn't a very good one."
> > > > >
> > > > > I disagree. Internet Connection Firewall will protect your computer
> > > > > as
> > > > > well
> > > > > as any firewall out there. When you buy a 3rd party firewall you are
> > > > > paying
> > > > > for more functionality and configuration options. Many people want
> > > > > more
> > > > > functionality than what ICF provides. However, many people also just
> > > > > want
> > > > > to
> > > > > be able to turn on a firewall and know that there computer is
> > > > > reasonably
> > > > > protected. For these people ICF is the best option.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Marc Reynolds
> > > > > Microsoft Technical Support
> > > > >
> > > > > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> > > > > rights.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Wesley Vogel" <123WVogel955@comcast.net> wrote in message
> > > > > news:5WBMb.33567$5V2.49983@attbi_s53...
> > > > > > MS's XP firewall isn't a very good one.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Use the Internet Connection Firewall
> > > > > >
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/howto/networking/icf.asp
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Internet Firewalls
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> >
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/columns/northrup/02august12.asp
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ZoneAlarm
> > > > > > http://www.zonelabs.com/store/content/home.jsp
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Hope this helps. Let us know.
> > > > > > Wes
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In news:083501c3d920$324724d0$a001280a@phx.gbl,
> > > > > > csp122 <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> hunted and pecked:
> > > > > > > With a PPPoE DSL Internet connection, I have the option of
> > > > > > > enabling the ICF on both the physical LAN adapter as well
> > > > > > > as the PPPoE connection... which offers the best
> > > > > > > security, and are there any drawbacks to enabling the ICF
> > > > > > > on one, or both?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks.



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