Dialup Lockup - Finally Found The Problem!
From: Eric (none_at_death.to.spammers.now)
Date: 12/23/03
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Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 01:37:03 -0500
Finally, I found what has been creating a conflict.
It seems there was a conflict between IPsec Service's configuration and
Norton's firewall.
I never configured IPsec manually, but something apparently did though.
I have IPsec temporarily disabled and I am now not having the lockup
problem, even when I try to induce a lockup by steps that always locked it
up before.
I'm not too familiar with IPsec. On the surface, it looks like you only
really need to use it if you are using VPN's? I plan on reading a little
about it and then deciding if its really needed or not.
-Eric
I previously wrote:
> This message is intended to start a thread for those that have the
internet
> dialup lockup and "HiddenFaxWindow" problem. This problem, as everyone
who
> has it is aware, has proved to be more than frusterating. Perhaps by
> comparing various common factors, we can find a fix for it. As everyone
who
> has this problem is very aware of, there is extremely little information
to
> go on -- either from Microsoft or elsewhere. A solution has been asked
for
> this problem numerous times on newsgroups (do a deja search), however the
> answers are always the same -- replies from people that think you haven't
> already tried the OBVIOUS or know how to do a goodle search. Until you
have
> this problem yourself, you won't appreciate how elusive finding a solution
> has proved to been.
>
> From my searches and reading, it appears that the nature of this
particular
> problem is somewhat widespread and common, however nobody as of yet has
> found a clear solution. I believe the newsgroups that I posted this to
are
> appropriate and I wanted to ensure that it achieves maximum proliferation
in
> case someone knows of a solution. If, for any other eason, than perhaps
> someone in the future will come across the solution through a deja search.
>
> I've been working every angle I can possible think of to find a solution
to
> this problem, but have only achieved working myself in full circles. I
will
> describe each angle I took to find a solution. I will also note specific
> software installed that may be giving this problem, perhaps when others
read
> this they will begin to see a pattern with specific programs installed.
>
> The problem itself seems simple enough: "WinXP internet connections
freezing
> up while using dialup modem connections"
>
> The symptoms: internet communication locks up completely, no traffic can
be
> received or transmitted. The dialup internet icon in the taskbar (little
> two terminal looking icon) no longer responds to left or right mouse
clicks.
> Only solution is to shut down WinXP and reboot. Sometimes while shutting
> down, a dialogue window appears stating that "HiddenFaxWindow" can not
shut
> down properly and must by manually ended. Regardless, after this problem
> occurs, during the shutdown WinXP can only make itself to the "Saving User
> Settings" screen and afterwards requires a physical reset. Interestingly,
> this problem only presents itself while using a dialup internet
> connection -- it doesn't present itself when only using broadband or
> wireless connections.
>
> Course of action I have tried:
>
> 1. Obviously, the first thing I looked for was any fax (Microsoft or third
> party) software that may be giving the problem. The only third party
> software I had installed was "FaxTalk NetOnHold", which operates both as
> faxing software and a "modem on hold" software interface for my v.92
dialup
> modem. This, of course, was the prime suspect. However, I seem to recall
> having this problem before I installed FaxTalk. I did, however,
completely
> remove FaxTalk just to ensure it wasn't the culprit. When I installed it,
> Norton CleanSweep monitored the installation and I used CleanSweep to
remove
> it completely. I also hand searched the registry to ensure that no
entries
> were left behind, along with hand searching to ensure that all directories
> and files associated with it were also removed. They all were. Searching
> through FaxTalk's support web site and also specific searches on
web/usenet
> revealed no known problems with FaxTalk and dialup internet freezing up.
>
> 2. Next suspect was perhaps Lucent's "Modem on Hold", however I had
> previously uninstalled it completely and cleanly to make certain there
would
> be no conflicts with FaxTalk. I ensured that there was nothing of it left
> laying around in the registry or drive.
>
> 3. With that out of the way, my next suspect was perhaps network
protocols.
> I removed, re-installed, and ensured I had the most current TCP/IP. With
> wireless and broadband working fine, I didn't really think this was the
> problem but figured it couldn't hurt.
>
> 4. I read that WinXP's built-in firewall can sometimes cause conflicts
when
> you have another firewall in use. I have Norton's firewall. I ensured
> that XP's firewall was disabled for dialup connections, but the problem
> continued.
>
> 5. I read on Microsoft's support web site that DirectX 9.0b causes
conflicts
> with XP's firewall and Microsoft Instant Messenger. While I don't have
> Microsoft IM set to load on boot, I did check out my DirectX. I have
> DirectX 9.0a installed, which (based on Microsoft support knowledge base),
> fixed the conflict problems that DirectX 9.0b had.
>
> 6. I begin to expect malware as a possibility. I keep my virus scanner
> (Norton) continuously updated and frequently do full system scans. I did
> another full scan, regardless, and it had negative results. I also
scanned
> completely for spyware, using Ad Aware. Nothing beyond Doubleclick cookies
> were found. Still not completely convinced, I even scanned it with
> different virus scanners and spyware scanners -- thinking perhaps it
> might've been possible that malware could've attacked Norton or Ad Aware.
To
> do these scans, I scanned the problem PC (laptop) over my wireless
network
> using scanner software physically running on a different machine. No
results
> are found.
>
> 7. More web searching leads me to start believing that the "Mofei" worm
may
> be a possibility since some of the symptoms are similar. I see no
footprint
> of this worm, however. Looking at the registry by hand shows no footprint
> related to this worm being installed, nor do any system files. The system
> file /windows/system32/scardsrv32.exe is a footprint of this worm, however
> it wasn't in the directory. I did have a few files in that directory that
> initially caught my attention (scardsrv.exe, scardssp.dll) mainly because
of
> their file version number (ver: 5.1.2600.0 -- that '2600' caught my eye),
> but after doing some searching against at Microsoft I discovered that
these
> files (Microsoft Smart Card Service Manager) and the version number were
> legit. To be absolutely sure, I even did a checksum comparison between
> these files in my directory and known legit files. They checked out fine.
>
> 8. Running "Event Viewer" (/start/Control Panel/Administration Tool/Event
> few) raises a few questions. Looking at the Security Log, some questions
> are raised. I don't believe these are related to this specific internet
> freezing problem though, but they still kind of bug me. In the log, many
> entries have been (and continue to be) logged for unsuccessful logon
> attempts by an "advapi" process. Reason for unsuccessful logon attempts
is
> "unknown user name or password". I had read that this isn't anything
major
> to fret over and have read that this might be caused by the
"Administrator"
> account name being changed. After installing WinXP (full scratch
install),
> I had initially selected "Administrator" for the administrator account
name
> during the setup process, but later changed it to a different name. I
> wonder if this could be why I am seeing all these log entries and if I
> could/should change something to clear them up. (WinXP wouldn't let me
> change the administrator account name back to "Administrator", it says its
> already in use. From what I read, the names "Administrator", "Guest", etc
> can't be use for account names. I suppose this holds true even if you had
> changed the administrator account name from "Administrator" and want to
> revert back to that name?) I'll hold these questions for later though.
>
> 9. Running msinfo32.exe raises my most alarming question. In the system
> history log, there are sometimes an entry for a program that is being
added
> and then immediately removed. The syntax used when it is added is
> "[program].exe \install". (The "\" might have been a "/", can't remember
> off-hand which slash it was.) After it is added, it is immediately
removed.
> The reason why I didn't give a name for "[program]" is because I can't
using
> normal ASCII text here! The name of this program is about four (or five)
> special characters, at least two appearing as a "y" with an accent mark
over
> it. This, of course, raises grave concern of stealthy malware somewhere.
I
> have no idea on how to do a file search for a filename with these special
> characters. As far as I knew, I didn't even think a filename could
contain
> them?
> (*UPDATE*: I find the source of this mysterious entry and it is unrelated
> and beneign.)
>
> 10. When these symptoms appear there is a SVCHOST process running at 99
> percent. I tried shutting down different ervices from services.msc and
see
> which are linked to that SHVHOST process. None had any effect. I also
tried
> disabling services BEFORE symptoms appeared, but that no effect as well.
>
> Malware seems to be one suspect at the moment, but I'm not completely
> convinced as the only the software I have installed from the internet has
> been Ad Aware. Everything else has been commercial, packaged, software.
It
> is still possible, I admit, that malware might had found it's way in
through
> email (although I have .exe's, components, even HTML disabled for email)
or
> the web.
>
> I now admit to feeling completely defeated on finding a solution.
>
> Some software I have (and had) installed that may be common with others
> (read some posts that said some of these were installed on their system as
> well):
>
> - Lucent's "Modem on Hold" utility for v.92 modems
> - FaxTalk NetOnHold
> - Microsoft Office 2000 over WinXP
> - DirectX 9.0a
>
> If we can find a solution for this, I'm sure many will be pleased --
> including us!
>
> -Eric
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