Re: Remotley managing XP Pro systems

From: Roger Abell (mvpNOSpam_at_asu.edu)
Date: 11/02/03


Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2003 12:46:05 -0700

It seems that we are seeing a small number of these
"selective" remoting issues. I am just wondering what
added tightening, perhaps in recent RPC patches, have
forced more restrictive tolerances on what SSPI negotiation
is acceptible for which administrative access.
Here I was thinking that downlevel security provider might
be accepted for network share type accesses (event log,
file shares, etc.) but not for COM/WMI based accesses.

Needless to say, I have noticed us both banging our heads
against these posts.

-- 
Roger
"Steven L Umbach" <sumbach55@ameritech.net> wrote in message
news:n6bpb.9185$8x2.5534539@newssrv26.news.prodigy.com...
> I was thinking that too, but he can access administrative shares and
manage
> users which tells me that lan man level is compatible yet he can not
access
> Event Viewer logs or parts of the registry. I know there is a security
> option for registry access paths via netwok, but the part about not
> accessing Event Viewer is curious since he can access it locally??
Probably
> a packet capture of the sequence would help. --- Steve
>
> "Roger Abell" <mvpNOSpam@asu.edu> wrote in message
> news:ur#4qFWoDHA.372@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > Just curious on this, but in the XP policy for lanmanager
> > protocols is the XP set to allow NTLM v2 or is it in
> > the often seen default of  LM and NTLM (which excludes
> > NTLM v2) ?
> >
> > --
> > Roger Abell
> > Microsoft MVP (Windows Server System: Security)
> > MCSE (W2k3,W2k,Nt4)  MCDBA
> > "Jack Wray" <jackwray@cox.net> wrote in message
> > news:%23pxD83LoDHA.2868@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > Steve,
> > >
> > > NT 4.0 domain.. Admin machine is windows 2000. And the local security
> > > policies are pretty close to default. Still looking.. thanks agian for
> > your
> > > help
> > >
> > >
> > > "Steven L Umbach" <n9rouz@nscomcast.net> wrote in message
> > > news:6RRob.61000$ao4.161833@attbi_s51...
> > > > You say you are in a NT domain - do you mean NT4.0? What is the
> > operating
> > > system is
> > > > on the computer that you are using to try to access from? Are the XP
> > > machines using
> > > > default Local Security Policy configuration or close to it?   ---
> Steve
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Jack Wray" <jackwray@cox.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:utbSeeIoDHA.688@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > > > > Steve,
> > > > >
> > > > > This is what i have come up with so far.
> > > > >
> > > > > Not able to access the following remotely
> > > > > Event Logs
> > > > > Registry keys beyond HKLM ( can see the subkeys but not able to
open
> > > them)
> > > > > Processes
> > > > >
> > > > > I can access the following
> > > > > User & Groups ( manage them as well )
> > > > > User rights policies ( manage as well )
> > > > > Admin shares  ( full access )
> > > > >
> > > > > So, file and print sharing is working, remote registry service is
> > > running
> > > > > and the machine knows that i have admin rights. I will keep
looking
> > but
> > > any
> > > > > ideas would be helpful.
> > > > >
> > > > > "Jack Wray" <jackwray@cox.net> wrote in message
> > > > > news:exkOLNCoDHA.424@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > thanks Steve,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I will give it a shot in the morning and let you know... BTW, i
> can
> > > access
> > > > > > all the mentioned thing interactively so it is a remote access
> > issue..
> > > > > > Anyways, i will let you know.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > thanks again for the quick response.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jack
> > > > > > "Steven L Umbach" <n9rouz@nscomcast.net> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:h3Cob.71843$Fm2.57525@attbi_s04...
> > > > > > > By logging on locally, I meant interactive logon with the same
> > > domain
> > > > > > administrators
> > > > > > > account you are using to try to gain remote access.  --- Steve
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Steven L Umbach" <n9rouz@nscomcast.net> wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:9_Bob.71991$HS4.630314@attbi_s01...
> > > > > > > > I would first logon to one of those machines locally to see
if
> > you
> > > can
> > > > > > do those
> > > > > > > > tasks. If you can then it is a network access  problem and
the
> > > things
> > > > > I
> > > > > > would check
> > > > > > > > are on XP computer are. -- The ICF firewall needs to be
> disabled
> > > or
> > > > > any
> > > > > > ipsec
> > > > > > > > policies blocking ports for file and print sharing. File and
> > print
> > > > > > sharing needs to
> > > > > > > > be installed/bound and the server service running. Remote
> > registry
> > > > > > service needs to
> > > > > > > > be running. You need the user right to access this computer
> from
> > > the
> > > > > > network on
> > > > > > > those
> > > > > > > > computers. If none of that pans out try temporarily
disabling
> > the
> > > four
> > > > > > security
> > > > > > > > options for "digitally sign communications" if you are
> accessing
> > > from
> > > > > a
> > > > > > W2K
> > > > > > > > chine.   --- Steve
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "Jack Wray" <jackwray@cox.net> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > news:%2356HgAAoDHA.1296@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > > > > All,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I am having an issue with xp systems on my network. All
> > systems
> > > are
> > > > > > joined
> > > > > > > > > to a NT domain. All systems have domain admins in the
local
> > > admin
> > > > > > group.
> > > > > > > > > However, all systems are showing the same problem, access
> > denied
> > > to
> > > > > > the even
> > > > > > > > > logs and registry. I use many scripts to monitor patches
and
> > > access
> > > > > to
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > registry is a must..Needless to say, access to the even
logs
> > is
> > > nice
> > > > > > too :)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I have looked into the force guest policy and that's not
> it..
> > > Any
> > > > > idea
> > > > > > would
> > > > > > > > > be great.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Jack
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