Re: Cloning XP setups (followup)

From: Richard Trusson [MSFT] (rtrusson_at_online.microsoft.com)
Date: 10/31/03


Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 07:52:10 -0000

Hello Iskandar,
I am not a Ghost expert, I use PowerQuest a lot more but given that here are
some answers to your questions,

1) Cna not advise on the version of Ghost. If your image is greater than the
size of your media you will have to span the image across the media. Ghost
is fine accessing images on CDs or network shares.

2) You need to provide a boot environment, RIS, WinPE or a DOS boot floppy.
You can not install a new image over the top of the existing operating
system. Be a bit like me trying to build a new house on top of yours whith
out first nocking yours down, you just know its not goinng to work. I belive
Ghost provides the ability to create boot media that can connect to a ghost
server deploying images via multicast, this will make deploying the image to
multiple machines much faster, so long as you network supports multi-cast.

3) WinPE is a Pre-execurtion environment. It provides a 32bit boot
environment with out running the whole XP OS. This allows read/write access
to NTFS partitions and access to CD/DVD drives and the network. It can be
run from CD, RIS or installed on the local harddisk as a recovery OS.
WinPE Licensing, who can have it and from where...
http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/programs/sa/support/winpe.asp

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Richard
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"Iskandar Taib" <ntaib@alumni.indiana.edu> wrote in message
news:9ce84e0e.0310302007.4800ee88@posting.google.com...
> This is a continuation of an old thread by the same name (Google
> wouldn't let me reply to the old messages). I've got a couple more
> questions (it takes us forever to get the money to do all this, hence
> the long delay..).
>
> 1) We're getting ready to buy Ghost. I've never actually used it
> before. Which particular version should we get, considering that we
> want to store the image(s) on a file server (using shares) - Ghost
> 2003 or Ghost Enterprise Edition? There's also "Ghost MFG". Can Ghost
> 2003 work with images stored on a network drive? Or would using burned
> CDs be the way to go?
>
> 2) I am unclear about the deployment part. What do you use to boot the
> machine on which the image is to be restored, and be able to access
> the file server where the images are stored? Do you boot up with the
> pre-existing XP, copy the image over, then fire up Ghost and it takes
> over from there? Or does Ghost have its own boot environment with
> network capability?
>
> 3) I've come across mention of Windows PE (Preinstallation
> Environment), which supposedly is obtainable from Microsoft. There is
> a version of Ghost that works with this. How does this fit in to all
> of this, if at all? Or is this for OEMs?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Iskandar
>
>
>
> "Darren McGuire" <darren.mcguire@westrac.com.au> wrote:
>
> >To put it simply ....
>
> >1. You need to create your SOE on one PC with all the
> >applications installed and have the machine look the way
> >you want it to, ie standard wallpapers, screensavers,
> >explorer settings, IE settings, the way the start menu to
> >look, the way the desktop should look, etc etc
> >2. In the administrator account, show all files in
> >explorer.  Then go to Control Panel - System - Advanced
> >and copy the profile that is set up the way you want,
> >into the default user profile located in \documents &
> >settings\default user.  Make sure the permissions to this
> >are set to everyone.
> >3. Delete the old profile once you are sure the default
> >user is set with all the correct settings.
> >4. Use Sysprep from the XP CD in extras\deploy or
> >something like that ???
> >5. Use Setup Manager to create a sysprep file
> >6. Run Sysprep.exe and select the option to use mini
> >setup and 'reseal'
> >7. the system will shutdown after sysprep.  Use ghost or
> >other imaging software to take your image or snapshot and
> >store it on a server or CD for deploying.
> >8. Happy deploying.
>
> >Of course you can go so much deeper with one image set to
> >work for multiple PC's by loading drivers into the image
> >etc
> >But the above is pretty straight forward for a staring
> >base
>
> >Darren McGuire
>
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >I've got 100 machines running XP Pro in a student lab.
>  At this point
> >in time, I'm waiting for my Domain Controllers to
>  arrive, so we've got
> >things set up pretty simply (local accounts, workgroup),
>  and I'm
> >looking at various options for when they do arrive.
>  Unfortunately,
> >it's been a while since I've done this sort of thing.
> >
> >What's the best way of cloning the setup of one machine,
>  after we've
> >installed all the software? Installing and testing a
>  couple dozen odd
> >pieces of chemistry/physics/biology freeware, not to
>  mention Office,
> >Acrobat Reader, etc. on a hundred machines is going to
>  be a royal pain
> >in the neck. Ideally I'd like to have all this stuff
>  stored on a
> >server, but we still need to replicate the basic setup
>  on the one
> >hundred machines.
> >
> >Will Ghost do this? I seem to recall something in my NT
>  Admin classes
> >about each machine having a distinct SID, which is
>  necessary in a
> >Domain. Not to mention the XP activation issue (though I
>  think that
> >might not apply to us, since the vendor installed XP en-
>  masse). Or is
> >there something built in in Windows Server 2003 that
>  will do this? A
> >way to automatically/unattendedly rebuild machines after
>  the students
> >have finished messing with them once a week would be
>  nice, too.
> >
> >Thanks!
> >.


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