Re: How to get full access to all contents?

From: Roger Abell (mvpNOSpam_at_asu.edu)
Date: 10/31/03 

Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 21:01:22 -0700

While logged in as an admin schedule a cmd prompt
to open in a couole minutes using task scheduler.
When the cmd prompt opens, it is running as System
(which is the local identity known to the domain
as machinename$).
There is no way I know of to actually log in as that
account, as you do not know the password. 

-- 
Roger Abell
Microsoft MVP (Windows Server System: Security)
MCSE (W2k3,W2k,Nt4)  MCDBA
"Dmitriy Kopnichev" <kopn@hotbox.ru> wrote in message
news:e2UtwhunDHA.2820@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Importing the saved key didn't help. How to logon to the
> "ME$(ME$@workgroup)" account?
> "Roger Abell" <mvpNOSpam@asu.edu> wrote in message
> news:%23z6kXntnDHA.1708@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > NG list trimmed to security_admin
> >
> > Have you yet tried importing the key that was saved into
> > an account ?  When doing this, it will give you the option
> > to have it prompt you whenerver it is used, or to just do it.
> > You must select for it to just do it without prompting.
> > Account names like ME$ are usually the machine account
> > that represents the machine as a member in the domain.
> >
> >
> > -- 
> > Roger Abell
> > Microsoft MVP (Windows Server System: Security)
> > MCSE (W2k3,W2k,Nt4)  MCDBA
> > "Dmitriy Kopnichev" <kopn@hotbox.ru> wrote in message
> > news:uUKcBFrnDHA.424@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > > I haven't removed any account.
> > > Isn't the "ME$(ME$@workgroup)" a user account? I used not the cipher,
> but
> > > "Encryption Details for" the file window in "Advanced Attributes" of
the
> > > file window. I saved a Private key to a .pfx file before I was joined
> the
> > > domain and my computer was renamed by the domain administrators.
> > > "Roger Abell" <mvpNOSpam@asu.edu> wrote in message
> > > news:ONH1y$onDHA.1408@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > > > You may own the machine and the files may be yours,
> > > > but if it is encrypted and you cannot prove to the system
> > > > that you are supposed to be able to decrypt it then it will
> > > > not let you.
> > > >
> > > > The only way to prove that you are supposed to be able
> > > > to access the EFS encrypted file is to use an account that
> > > > has loaded into it the decryption key that corresponds to
> > > > the certificate that was used to encrypt the file.
> > > >
> > > > When you renamed the machine, apparently starting down
> > > > the road of denied access, something seems to have removed
> > > > that capability.  When you used cipher to look at the file it
> > > > said that there was no user account allowed to decrypt it,
> > > > instead indicating the machine was allowed to decrypt it.
> > > > That, assuming you have reported accurately what you saw,
> > > > is something with which I am unfamiliar, either as to why it
> > > > got that way or how to get out of that situation.
> > > >
> > > > -- 
> > > > Roger Abell
> > > > Microsoft MVP (Windows Server System: Security)
> > > > MCSE (W2k3,W2k,Nt4)  MCDBA
> > > > "Dmitriy Kopnichev" <kopn@hotbox.ru> wrote in message
> > > > news:emNMRrjnDHA.2772@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > > > This is my file. I'm the only computer owner.
> > > > > "Roger Abell" <mvpNOSpam@asu.edu> wrote in message
> > > > > news:#zBS$oUnDHA.2776@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > code 5 is probably access failure
> > > > > > in this case since you do not have EFS capability to decrypt
> > > > > > you are not allowed to modify who can decrypt
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Roger Abell
> > > > > > Microsoft MVP (Windows Server System: Security)
> > > > > > MCSE (W2k3,W2k,Nt4)  MCDBA
> > > > > > "Dmitriy Kopnichev" <kopn@hotbox.ru> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:%23hNgtVSnDHA.2628@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > > I tried to add myself and/or another user to "Users Who Can
> > > > > Transparently
> > > > > > > Access this File" and got an error
> > > > > > > "ERSADU
> > > > > > > Error in adding new user(s). Error code 5."
> > > > > > > "Roger Abell" <mvpNOSpam@asu.edu> wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:ehWd8qOnDHA.1764@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > > > When you look at the file's properties Security dialog
> > > > > > > > is anything checked for any group in the Deny column ?
> > > > > > > > You must highlight each group listed one at a time and
> > > > > > > > then look at what is Granted/Denied.
> > > > > > > > An account that is only in Administrators group is
> > > > > > > > actually also in other things to which there can be
> > > > > > > > NTFS Grants/Denies, like Authenticated Users,
> > > > > > > > Network, Interactive, Everyone. . . .
> > > > > > > > Not having EFS authorization appears as if it is a
> > > > > > > > NTFS permissions denial.  You should use the cipher
> > > > > > > > commandline utility to examine the thumbprint info of
> > > > > > > > the file to see what accounts are allowed to decrypt it.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > Roger Abell
> > > > > > > > Microsoft MVP (Windows Server System: Security)
> > > > > > > > MCSE (W2k3,W2k,Nt4)  MCDBA
> > > > > > > > "Dmitriy Kopnichev" <kopn@hotbox.ru> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > news:eykgm5MnDHA.2848@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > > > > How to become sure that there is no Deny for any group.
The
> > file
> > > > is
> > > > > > EFS
> > > > > > > > > protected. But I can open other EFS protected files.
> > > > > > > > > "Roger Abell" <mvpNOSpam@asu.edu> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > > news:##sRquJnDHA.1084@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > > > > > This means that you have full control and it is
inherited
> > from
> > > > > > > > > > some higher directory.
> > > > > > > > > > Are you sure that there is no Deny for some group, and
if
> > > > > > > > > > there is make sure your account is not a member of the
> > group.
> > > > > > > > > > Deny overrides a Grant.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > Roger Abell
> > > > > > > > > > Microsoft MVP (Windows Server System: Security)
> > > > > > > > > > MCSE (W2k3,W2k,Nt4)  MCDBA
> > > > > > > > > > "Dmitriy Kopnichev" <kopn@hotbox.ru> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > > > news:um7vwqGnDHA.2080@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > > > > > > I'm the Owner of the file and have full access, but
the
> > > > > "Effective
> > > > > > > > > > > permissions" are all checked and grayed for me.
> > > > > > > > > > > "Kelly" <kelly@mvps.org> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > > > > news:eCVc2iGnDHA.2000@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > > > > > > > Without knowing more, see if this helps:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > EXE and LNK Fix for Windows XP - Line 12
> > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > To use the Regedit:  Save the REG File to your hard
> > disk.
> > > > > Double
> > > > > > > > click
> > > > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > > > and answer yes to the import prompt. REG files can
be
> > > viewed
> > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > Notepad
> > > > > > > > > > by
> > > > > > > > > > > > right clicking on the file and selecting Edit.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > > All the Best,
> > > > > > > > > > > > Kelly
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > MS-MVP Win98/XP
> > > > > > > > > > > > [AE-Windows® XP]
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Troubleshooting Windows XP
> > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Top 10 Frequently Asked Questions and Answers
> > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/top10faqs.htm
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > "Dmitriy Kopnichev" <kopn@hotbox.ru> wrote in
message
> > > > > > > > > > > > news:uRnCDcGnDHA.1096@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I get "Windows cannot access the specified device,
> > path,
> > > > or
> > > > > > > file.
> > > > > > > > > You
> > > > > > > > > > > may
> > > > > > > > > > > > > not have appropriate permissions to access the
> item."
> > > when
> > > > I
> > > > > > > > > > > double-click
> > > > > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > file. I'm the only owner of the computer. How to
get
> > > full
> > > > > > access
> > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > all
> > > > > > > > > > > > > contents?
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