Re: Pop up Messages

From: Bruce Chambers (bchambers_at_nospam.cableone.net)
Date: 08/14/03


Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 22:30:01 -0600


Greetings --

    Please stop posting potentially harmful advice. What are you, a
hacker-wannabe? Why else would you be deliberately posting bad
advice? Are you trying to give people a false sense of security by
having them turn off what are, in effect, valid security warnings,
while still leaving their PCs open to potential exploitation?

    Disabling the messenger service is a "head in the sand" approach
to computer security.

    The real problem is _not_ the messenger service pop-ups; they're
actually providing a useful service by acting as a security alert. The
true problem is the unsecured computer, and you're only
advice, however well-intended, was to turn off the warnings. How is
this helpful?

    Equivalent Scenario: You over-exert your shoulder at work or
play, causing bursitis. After weeks of annoying and sometimes
excruciating pain whenever you try to reach over your head, you go to
a doctor and say, while demonstrating the motion, "Doc, it hurts when
I do this." The doctor, being as helpful as you are, replies, "Well,
don't do that."

    The only true way to secure the PC, short of disconnecting it from
the Internet, is to install and *properly* configure a firewall; just
installing one and letting it's default settings handle things is no
good. Unfortunately, this does require one to learn a little bit more
about using a computer than used to be necessary.

Bruce Chambers

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"Ryan" <securitron101@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:0bef01c3621b$789f2300$a101280a@phx.gbl...
> Not nessesarly,  you can go to:
> start -> run -> type "cmd" and at the command prompt
> type "net stop messenger"
>
> or!  to completely get rid of messenger popups, go to my
> computer -> control panel -> administrative options ->
> services .. find messenger , right click and choose stop,
> then right click and choose disable
>
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >You need a firewall. 'Messenger spam', is not in itself
> harmful,
> >but is symptomatic of a larger problem - your computer
> has ports open from
> >the Internet.
> >
> >You can disable the Messenger service, but that is unwise
> as a solution as
> >you'll still have the underlying problem that caused you
> to get the messages
> >in the first place - consider the messages a useful
> warning that you have no
> >protection from the Internet. People who advise you to
> merely disable the
> >messenger service are misinformed at best.
> >
> >For a standalone machine, see www.sygate.com for a free
> personal firewall.
> >
> >See http://securityadmin.info/faq.htm for more info.
> >
> >pktimmy wrote:
> >> Please,
> >> How can I turn off access to my computer from those
> >> annoying pop-up ads that will suddenly appear on the
> >> desktop?
> >
> >
> >.
> >


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