Re: messenger pop up ads

From: Bruce Chambers (bchambers_at_nospam.cableone.net)
Date: 08/31/03


Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 09:20:58 -0600


Greetings --

    Can't "find any information on this problem ...?" How can you not
see the dozens of identical questions and the corresponding posted
solutions that appear in this, and several others, new group each day?

    This particular "sales method" is strikingly similar to the
"protection" rackets offered to small businesses by organized
criminals. Yes, it's a scam; no reputable business would need to
resort to extortion. Particularly since they're trying to sell you a
type of protection that is already available to you free of charge.

    This type of spam has become quite common over the past few
months, and unintentionally serves as a valid security "alert." It
demonstrates that you haven't been taking sufficient precautions while
connected to the Internet. Your data probably hasn't been compromised
by these specific advertisements, but if you're open to this exploit,
you may well be open to other threats, such as well-known and
widespread the Blaster Worm. Install and use a decent, properly
configured firewall. (Merely disabling the messenger service, as some
people recommend, only hides the symptom, and does little or nothing
to truly secure your machine.) And ignoring or just "putting up with"
these messages and the problem they represent is particularly
foolish.

Messenger Service of Windows
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;168893

Messenger Service Window That Contains an Internet Advertisement
Appears
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=330904

Stopping Advertisements with Messenger Service Titles
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/howto/communicate/stopspam.asp

Blocking Ads, Parasites, and Hijackers with a Hosts File
http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm

    Oh, and be especially wary of people who advise you to do nothing
more than disable the messenger service. Disabling the messenger
service, by itself, is a "head in the sand" approach to computer
security. The real problem is _not_ the messenger service pop-ups;
they're actually providing a useful, if annoying, service by acting as
a security alert. The true problem is the unsecured computer, and
you've been advised to merely turn off the warnings. How is this
helpful?

    Equivalent Scenario 1: Somewhere in a house, a small fire starts,
and sets off the smoke alarm. You, not immediately seeing any
fire/smoke, complain about the noise of the smoke detector, and are
advised to remove the smoke detector's battery and go back to sleep.

    Equivalent Scenario 2: You over-exert your shoulder at work or
play, causing bursitis. After weeks of annoying and sometimes
excruciating pain whenever you try to reach over your head, you go to
a doctor and say, while demonstrating the motion, "Doc, it hurts when
I do this." The doctor, being as helpful as some of your respondents,
replies, "Well, don't do that."

    I'm beginning to think that the people deliberately posting such
bad advice are hacker-wannabes who have no true interest in helping
you secure your system, but would rather give you a false sense of
security while ensuring that your computer is still open to
exploitation.

Bruce Chambers

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"mike m" <yorpal@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:058d01c36fc4$b7d74f00$a401280a@phx.gbl...
> I get this stupid pop up that tells me that if I go to
> byebyeads this will stop the popups.  This problem is due
> to a problem with the microsoft xp messenger program that
> allows this sort of stuff pass by norton and other pop up
> blockers.
>
> I think this is bull because I can't find any information
> on this problem yet. No auto fix has done anything to
> stop them.  Does anyone have this problem?  if so, can
> you help find this hidden program that got passed me?
>
> thanks everyone, mike


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