Panicware and popup buster only ADD to the problem

From: Shadowhawk (shadowhawk_at_pobox.com)
Date: 07/29/03


Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 06:58:19 -0700


Virtually anyone who offers you a pop-up stopper is only
blocking others and paving the way for their own. So your
sense is correct on this.

I agree with Jupiter that the ads are just a symptom of the
problem and that disabling the messenger service is one
step toward cutting down the number of pop-ups you're
getting. Ad-Aware, while it is one of the few legitimate
pop-up removers, is only removing the symptoms. The problem
really lies within an application (or several applications)
that is running on your system unbeknownst to you that is
reaching out (if you will) and calling these pop-up ads.
So, no matter how much you run Ad-Aware, the problem will
return.

Where I disagree with Jupiter (no offence intended) is at
the bottom of his post where he points out other
sites/products to use to stop pop-ups (after his mention of
Ad-Aware and lavasoft). Avoid them. They will only give you
more pop-ups in the manner I described above. Whenever I
have removed Panicware and Popupbuster (and a few others)
from a users machine and registry run group (careful!), the
pop-ups went away. That was because these products act as
requesters and are being started automatically each time
you restart your machine. Since I don't know your technical
comfort level, I won't delve into the registry details
because it is dangerous unless you understand it. If you
are comfortable with the registry, goto
HKLM....windows/currentversion/run and remove references to
panicware and some of the other things that Jupiter listed
after his mention of Ad-aware. If you find those same names
(that Jupiter pointed out) within your add/remove programs,
go ahead and remove them and their directories from within
your Program Files directory structure. Odds are, those are
the culprits. Ad-aware is fine, but only solves the
symptoms, and as Jupiter points out, there's an underlying
problem that needs to be solved.

**BIG DISCLAIMER HERE: If any of what I said does not make
sense, don't do any of it. Run this by a local tech support
person or equivalent so they can advise you on the process
(if necessary).

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>-----Original Message-----
>Frank;
>No need to pay for the fix.
>For Messenger Service ads:
>You need to install or enable a firewall:
>http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=330904
>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/howto/communicate/stopspam.asp
>Disabling Messenger Service can be a good idea, but it
does not solve
>the real problem.
>The ads are not the real problem, the ads are only a symptom.
>The real problem is open ports that allow unwanted traffic
into the
>computer.
>Disabling Messenger does nothing for the open ports.
>The firewall controls the traffic.
>
>Internet Connection Firewall will not work if you have AOL.
>AOL is not compatible with Windows XP Internet Connection
Firewall
>(ICF)
>If you have AOL, you should contact AOL and/or get a 3rd party
>firewall.
>
>Disable Messenger Service:
>Start/Control Panel, click Administrative Tools, click
Services.
>Go down to "Messenger".
>Right click "Messenger" and select Properties.
>Then under Start-up select DISABLE
>Click OK and follow prompts
>
>Check this link:
>http://www.aumha.org/a/noads.php
>Run Ad-Aware (free version) or Spybot to check for spyware:
>http://www.lavasoft.de/
>Or
>http://spybot.eon.net.au/
>
>For internet pop-ups, try one of these:
>http://www.panicware.com/
>http://www.bysoft.se/sureshot/stopthepop/index.html
>http://www.popupbuster.com/PopUpBuster/
>http://www.kolumbus.fi/eero.muhonen/FS/
>http://www.endpopups.com/
>http://www.adshield.org/
>
>--
>Jupiter Jones [MVP]
>An easier way to read newsgroup messages:
>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/newsgroups/setup.asp
>http://dts-l.org/index.html
>
>
>"Frank" <shewtson@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:048801c3556f$cd0b0c50$a501280a@phx.gbl...
>> I've tryed downloading this free edition pop up
>> stopper. and it does work, but not with all of them. I
>> just get these other pop ups, that say "stop pop ups
>> now!" and all it does is make me more angry. I've tryed
>> the add but its not free. It's ruining my online gaming,
>> It'll minimize my game while I'm in the middle of battle
>> to show me the pop up. Please help, Thanks
>> Frank B.
>
>
>.
>



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